Watercooler Talk

mattpeneguy · Unread post by **mattpeneguy** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:40 am

Zhen-Wei Tee wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:37 pm Another for SaaS

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/adobe-p ... iption-fee

The people that use Photoshop for work aren't going to be phased by an additional $15/year. They'll just pay it. But, it does make me wonder how much business Adobe has lost to amateurs that may be freelancing and starting a business.

jcapriotti · Unread post by **jcapriotti** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:58 am

mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:40 am The people that use Photoshop for work aren't going to be phased by an additional $15/year. They'll just pay it. But, it does make me wonder how much business Adobe has lost to amateurs that may be freelancing and starting a business.

If anyone is looking for a Photoshop / Illustrator replacement that is non-subscription based........I purchased these and never looked back.

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/

SPerman · Unread post by **SPerman** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:12 am

mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:40 am The people that use Photoshop for work aren't going to be phased by an additional $15/year. They'll just pay it. But, it does make me wonder how much business Adobe has lost to amateurs that may be freelancing and starting a business.

I thought the article said $15/month.

jcapriotti · Unread post by **jcapriotti** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:29 am

This Pantone subscription seems like a company trying to justify it's existence. Can you image paying a subscription to reference the Periodic table in your work? A subscription for using QWERTY keyboards perhaps?

What's next, ASME starts charging companies a per drawing subscription fee so you can put "This drawings complies with ASME Y14" on your drawings? You pay us 10 cents per drawing per year.

Frederick_Law · Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:42 pm

Money money money.
If you don't force people to upgrade, they won't.
They'll use the copy they bought till the end.

Then forcing a subscription with no extra value will never work.

I need a new house to improve my product, I'll just get my customers to pay for it.

jcapriotti · Unread post by **jcapriotti** » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:07 pm

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:42 pm
Then forcing a subscription with no extra value will never work.

Until they've become the only game in town then they force companies to whatever price game the want to play. Adobe products for example. There are some alternatives but they have so much of the market share they can hold you in a "soft" hostage situation.

We need to make file formats open as a requirement for all commercial software. The "proprietary" part should be the software itself, not the file contents. For Online cloud databases I should be able to download all of my data down to all of the feature data.

Ömür Tokman · Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:10 am

Hey guys, has anyone been able to meet with Tony Tieuli? it's been a while! I can no longer reach him at his e-mail address. Yesterday was his birthday.

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:50 am

Ömür Tokman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:10 am Hey guys, has anyone been able to meet with Tony Tieuli? it's been a while! I can no longer reach him at his e-mail address. Yesterday was his birthday.

You make a valid point, I haven't seen him around in a while.

AlexLachance · Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:26 am

Upgrading a few workstations over here, kind of excited to see how they'll work with SolidWorks 2022 when we do that switch

The specs for those interested;
Lenovo Thinkstation P360
Intel core i7-12700
64 GB DDR5 Ram (max 128GB)
512GB SSD
nVidia RTX A4000 - 16GB GDDR6

Frederick_Law · Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:04 pm

Really, Ask anything?
1 2

Frederick_Law · Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:12 pm

Checking Google timeline for something and saw this:

2708km in 23 min, 7070 km/hr, Mach 5.7
2690km in 14 min, 11545 km/hr, Mach 9.3
Almost as fast as Maverick

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:16 pm

Christmas time is closing in, how many are going to be off during the holidays?

Tomorrow will be my last day of work of the year, I'll be off until January 4rth 2023! Really eager to enjoy the holidays and also have the time to rest up a bit. Most likely won't be as active, if at all, on here, besides for my general rants.

As a Christmas gift to myself, I am getting a new Nissan Kicks 2023 special edition this friday.

Glenn Schroeder · Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:54 pm

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:16 pm Christmas time is closing in, how many are going to be off during the holidays?

Tomorrow will be my last day of work of the year, I'll be off until January 4rth 2023! Really eager to enjoy the holidays and also have the time to rest up a bit. Most likely won't be as active, if at all, on here, besides for my general rants.

As a Christmas gift to myself, I am getting a new Nissan Kicks 2023 special edition this friday.

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I'll be leaving work in about 30 minutes and won't return until January 2 (some of that is holiday and some is vacation time).

Congratulations on the new car.

Frederick_Law · Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:11 pm

Half day Friday, back on Jan 2.

DennisD · Unread post by **DennisD** » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:41 am

The passenger steamer SS Warrimoo was quietly knifing its way through the waters of the mid-Pacific on its way from Vancouver to Australia. The navigator had just finished working out a star fix and brought Captain John DS. Phillips, the result. The Warrimoo’s position was LAT 0º 31’ N and LONG 179 30’ W. The date was 31 December 1899.

“Know what this means?” First Mate Payton broke in, “We’re only a few miles from the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line”. Captain Phillips was prankish enough to take full advantage of the opportunity for achieving the navigational freak of a lifetime.

He called his navigators to the bridge to check & double check the ship’s position. He changed course slightly so as to bear directly on his mark. Then he adjusted the engine speed.

The calm weather & clear night worked in his favor. At mid-night the SS Warrimoo lay on the Equator at exactly the point where it crossed the International Date Line. The consequences of this bizarre position were many:

The bow of the ship was in the Southern Hemisphere & in the middle of summer.

The stern was in the Northern Hemisphere & in the middle of winter.

The date in the aft part of the ship was December 31, 1899.

The date in the forward part of the ship was January 1, 1900.

The ship was therefore concurrently in:

two different days,

two different months,

two different years,

two different seasons

and in two different centuries.

Euller, John (Sept.1953). "A freak of navigation". Ships and the Sea. 3. p. 18

Frederick_Law · Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:20 pm

A platform on that spot would be good for tourist.

zxys001 · Unread post by **zxys001** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:53 pm

..Grinch and Max parasolids

zwei · Unread post by **zwei** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:02 am

mgibeault · Unread post by **mgibeault** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:01 pm

mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:40 am The people that use Photoshop for work aren't going to be phased by an additional $15/year. They'll just pay it. But, it does make me wonder how much business Adobe has lost to amateurs that may be freelancing and starting a business.

Sorry if it's an old thread but I found this free download that could be useful for Photoshop users:
https://culturehustle.com/products/free ... 1df6&_ss=r

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:38 pm

Tommorow is gonna be a heck of a cold day, I'm definetly staying in. Middle temperature is the felt temperature.

SPerman · Unread post by **SPerman** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:40 pm

centigrade or farenheit; either way, that's cold!

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:42 pm

SPerman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:40 pm centigrade or farenheit; either way, that's cold!

These are celciuses, yeah it's horribly cold lol

Frederick_Law · Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:58 am

-22C this morning.
The snow are nice. Not sticking to the car.

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:02 am

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:58 am -22C this morning.
The snow are nice. Not sticking to the car.

We're still looking like what was reported. It's a beautiful cold though. It's not windy and there's some sun.

bnemec · Unread post by **bnemec** » Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:12 am

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:02 am We're still looking like what was reported. It's a beautiful cold though. It's not windy and there's some sun.
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We're at -12F this morning, beautiful weather. Sun shining, little to no wind, the snow squeaks and brushes off instead of melting into my clothes, no humidity and NO FLYING INSECTS!

Frederick_Law · Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:17 am

Sunny day with no cloud in winter means really freezing cold day.
It was windy last night.

Glenn Schroeder · Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:24 am

37°F here this morning. Yesterday it got up to 40°, which was the first time this week it got out of the 30's. That's unusual here, though people are still talking about the time in December 1983 when it stayed below freezing for 10 consecutive days.

Usually when we get a cold front it will be cold (at least cold for us) for about two days, then the temperature will go up 10 degrees each day until it gets up into the 70's and stays there until the next cold front.

SamSpade · Unread post by **SamSpade** » Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:17 pm

yep, it's crazy cold. I just took a look at the outdoor temperature on my thermostat and it's registering -26°C (-15°F). Without a block heater, most car engines aren't happy when they are being cranked at such extreme temperatures.

Frederick_Law · Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:06 pm

SamSpade wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:17 pm Without a block heater, most car engines aren't happy when they are being cranked at such extreme temperatures.

Just use good oil.

bnemec · Unread post by **bnemec** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:15 am

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:06 pm Just use good oil.

Frederick_Law · Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:27 am

I don't have problem with engine starting at -20C and below.

Now if you got an old battery, that's another problem.
For that I like AGM battery.

AlexLachance · Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:00 am

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:27 am I don't have problem with engine starting at -20C and below.

Now if you got an old battery, that's another problem.
For that I like AGM battery.

It took a while for mine to run fine saturday at -37C feels like -48C and my car is new, less then 1000KM traveled. Took about half an hour before it ran fine. There's also a video showing miners in Fermont up in Quebec and pretty much all vehicules wouldn't start and needed a Powerpack because of the cold.

Thankfully we're back to -5C today and should be alternating between -5C and 5C for the week.

Frederick_Law · Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:21 am

Try this next year:

I use Molyslip before but can't find them anymore.
https://www.molyslip.com/products/oilfu ... upplement/
Add it when you switch to winter tires.
I use half a bottle.
Engine start and run in -20C like its summer.
I don't warm the engine up. I'll start it and clear the snow.
I've been using it for a long time. In 5 cars.

AlexLachance · Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:26 am

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:21 am Try this next year:

I use Molyslip before but can't find them anymore.
https://www.molyslip.com/products/oilfu ... upplement/
Add it when you switch to winter tires.
I use half a bottle.
Engine start and run in -20C like its summer.
I don't warm the engine up. I'll start it and clear the snow.
I've been using it for a long time. In 5 cars.

-20 never really caused issues for me, even when I had a 1996 Hyundai Accent. It's really the big spikes of temperature that do something. Like, going from -5 to -45 in 1 day is a lot harder on a car then going from -5 to -35 in a week.

Glenn Schroeder · Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:46 am

Y'all enjoy that cold weather. It's supposed to be 76°F here this afternoon.

AlexLachance · Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:49 am

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:46 am Y'all enjoy that cold weather. It's supposed to be 76°F here this afternoon.

Send some bottled heat my way

DennisD · Unread post by **DennisD** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:38 pm

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:49 am Send some bottled heat my way

You're welcome.

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:50 pm

Looks like they're having fun trying to implement something on the 3DX Platform

Frederick_Law · Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:53 pm

Tag tag tag

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:39 pm

And it keeps on going lol

bnemec · Unread post by **bnemec** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:53 pm

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:53 pm Tag tag tag

When I read/watched the "how to enter ERs" I finally gained a toehold perspective on the whole 6W tag fiasco.

Take every kind of notion that might have a drop-down selection but let them all be editable so users can add new items to the dropdown list. Then take the text from every drop-down in the entire system and toss it in a bag, shake the bag and pick some out for your post. Now I can search post by tags, but there are so many tags I need a search tool for the tag bag so I know which tag to search for. Most decent applications take care of structuring these attributes, the SWYMp lets you sprinkle them out like glitter.

Honestly now, and no sarcasm, whoever tried to put together the "template" for the ER ideas did pretty good with what they were given to work with. They pretty much tried to implement several drop-downs.

Frederick_Law · Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:57 pm

It's like database at work:
CustomerName
cUstomer name
CUSTOMER NAME
customer-name
customer - name

DanPihlaja · Unread post by **DanPihlaja** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:14 pm

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:39 pm And it keeps on going lol
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I have no idea what I am seeing there. Can you explain?

bnemec · Unread post by **bnemec** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:50 pm

DanPihlaja wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:14 pm I have no idea what I am seeing there.

That's what we've been saying.

DanPihlaja wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:14 pm Can you explain?

Not sure anyone can, although many have tried.

Or do you mean that idea specifically?

Frederick_Law · Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:38 pm

DanPihlaja wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:14 pm I have no idea what I am seeing there. Can you explain?

I saw a fire and came for BBQ.

dave.laban · Unread post by **dave.laban** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:15 am

DanPihlaja wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:14 pm I have no idea what I am seeing there. Can you explain?

From some posts that were on there yesterday and the quality of insults therein, I think some kids have discovered they can sign up and cause mischief.

AlexLachance · Unread post by **AlexLachance** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:44 am

DanPihlaja wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:14 pm I have no idea what I am seeing there. Can you explain?

Some people at Dassault are sending in ideas in a hidden community to try and put something in place and then deleting them. I have no idea what it is but my best guess would be what @bnemec said. Probably creating an ER system with drop downs that turns into tags. The tags seem pretty frivolous to me.

dave.laban · Unread post by **dave.laban** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:03 am

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:44 am Some people at Dassault are sending in ideas in a hidden community to try and put something in place and then deleting them. I have no idea what it is but my best guess would be what @bnemec said. Probably creating an ER system with drop downs that turns into tags. The tags seem pretty frivolous to me.

The tags would be useful if they turned on the functionality they've got in the main SW forum that lets your filter topics by subject.

And it seems they were testing the new submission form, which avoids the need for everyone to read instructions and follow some very odd steps to submit an idea "properly".

https://forum.solidworks.com/idea/add

Frederick_Law · Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:32 am

#And they AreaDY broken it with some really LONG-RUNNING TAG nobody can_REMEMBER

JSculley · Unread post by **JSculley** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:00 am

bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:53 pm When I read/watched the "how to enter ERs" I finally gained a toehold perspective on the whole 6W tag fiasco.

Take every kind of notion that might have a drop-down selection but let them all be editable so users can add new items to the dropdown list. Then take the text from every drop-down in the entire system and toss it in a bag, shake the bag and pick some out for your post. Now I can search post by tags, but there are so many tags I need a search tool for the tag bag so I know which tag to search for. Most decent applications take care of structuring these attributes, the SWYMp lets you sprinkle them out like glitter.

They are just continuing the proud tradition set forth in the Knowledge Base 'Product' and 'Area' filters:
Product
SolidWorks
SolidWorks PDM
SolidWorks Electrical
DraftSight
eDrawings
SolidWorks API
SolidWorks Simulation
Routing
SolidWorks Motion
Workgroup PDM
SolidWorks Inspection
Composer
PhotoWorks
3D Content Central
XPLM PDM Connectors
SolidWorks Enterprise PDM 2009 CAD Editor
SolidWorks Flow Simulation
SolidWorks 2009
SolidWorks Enterprise PDM 2010 CAD Editor
SolidWorks Manage
SolidWorks 2010
SolidWorks CAM
SolidWorks Premium 2011
SOLIDWORKS PDM Professional 2016 CAD Editor
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Content Products
SOLIDWORKS PDM Professional 2018 CAD Editor
SolidWorks Enterprise PDM 2014 CAD Editor
SolidWorks PCB
SolidWorks Visualize
SOLIDWORKS Premium 2017
SolidWorks Office Premium 2007
SolidWorks Plastics
SolidWorks Professional 2009
SolidWorks Utilities
SOLIDWORKS Electrical 2D 2015
SOLIDWORKS Electrical Professional Network
SOLIDWORKS Electrical Schematic Professional 2017 Network
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SolidWorks 2009 Network
SolidWorks Enterprise PDM 2011 CAD Editor
SolidWorks Enterprise PDM 2012 CAD Editor
SolidWorks Enterprise PDM 2012 Processor License - 100 Users
SolidWorks Office Premium 2006
SolidWorks Premium 2010
SolidWorks Premium 2011 Network
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DWG Gateway
SOLIDWORKS 2019 Network Installation
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View only
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