Missing 5% Functionality - Set custom sheet scale

[Glenn Schroeder]

Hello,

@Alin started a great thread in the old forum for users to discuss where new enhancements were mostly well done, but had one or two aspects that left us scratching our heads thinking "Why?". I have one about the long-requested Drawing enhancement regarding setting custom sheet scales and view scales. They finally made it easier to change the view scale, which is great.

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They also added this nice "User Defined" option to the list at the bottom of the screen.

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However, I'd like to sit down and have a talk with whoever thought it was a good idea to have this box come in with the scale completely empty. When changing the view scale the current scale is there, and highlighted, so you only have to replace a numeral or two instead of typing the whole thing. Why the inconsistency?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I often think the people making decisions on how to implement enhancements have never actually used the software.

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[KevinC]

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However, I'd like to sit down and have a talk with whoever thought it was a good idea to have this box come in with the scale completely empty. When changing the view scale the current scale is there, and highlighted, so you only have to replace a numeral or two instead of typing the whole thing. Why the inconsistency?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I often think the people making decisions on how to implement enhancements have never actually used the software.


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Plus you have to get the syntax (#:#) correct.

I'd do this dialog with two input boxes with a static text ":" between them, prepopulated with the current scale (as is currently implemented in sheet properties).

Kevin

[zwei]

Well said...
This interface is real confusing.

When i first use it, i thought I can just type in [2] and the scale will change to 2:1 but that's not how it work

[mattpeneguy]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I often think the people making decisions on how to implement enhancements have never actually used the software.

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What evidence do you have of this claim? Haven't you seen the 3DSwamp?

[mattpeneguy]

Sooo, shouldn't this be a drop down, where you can select a scale or a "Custom" scale? Trying to think of an example where that's done intuitively...Hmm...

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[Glenn Schroeder]

Sooo, shouldn't this be a drop down, where you can select a scale or a "Custom" scale? Trying to think of an example where that's done intuitively...Hmm...
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I'm perfectly happy with the way we can set a custom view scale in the property manager. They finally set it up the way it should have been done years ago. It's the way the option to set a custom sheet scale was implemented that I have a problem with.

[mike miller]

Has anyone else seen issues with sheet borders when the sheet scale is changed? It's super annoying. I guess most things in SWX are annoying, so at least they're being consistent....

[Glenn Schroeder]

Has anyone else seen issues with sheet borders when the sheet scale is changed? It's super annoying. I guess most things in SWX are annoying, so at least they're being consistent....

I haven't.

[mattpeneguy]

Sooo, shouldn't this be a drop down, where you can select a scale or a "Custom" scale? Trying to think of an example where that's done intuitively...Hmm...
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I'm perfectly happy with the way we can set a custom view scale in the property manager. They finally set it up the way it should have been done years ago. It's the way the option to set a custom sheet scale was implemented that I have a problem with.

Jeez, even my sarcasm isn't coming through in purple well enough. I meant they could have used the view scale interface as a template for the sheet scale... View scale works pretty well, I agree...

Hey @matt do you think you could make a "blinking" option for the sarcasm tag?
BTW, what's the new s tag do? Let's find out....Nice, strike-through. Definitely a nice addition, thanks Matt.

[matt]

Hey @matt do you think you could make a "blinking" option for the sarcasm tag?
BTW, what's the new s tag do? Let's find out....Nice, strike-through. Definitely a nice addition, thanks Matt.

Uh, blinking might be too cheesy even for me, but how about Uber Sarcasm? regular sarcasm, and then Uber Sarcasm

[mattpeneguy]

Hey @matt do you think you could make a "blinking" option for the sarcasm tag?
BTW, what's the new s tag do? Let's find out....Nice, strike-through. Definitely a nice addition, thanks Matt.

Uh, blinking might be too cheesy even for me, but how about Uber Sarcasm? regular sarcasm, and then Uber Sarcasm

I was joking about the blinking...Definitely cheesy and ANNOYING. Now I need to see about changing my default font to that new Uber Sarcasm. Thanks!

[Glenn Schroeder]

. . . However, I'd like to sit down and have a talk with whoever thought it was a good idea to have this box come in with the scale completely empty. When changing the view scale the current scale is there, and highlighted, so you only have to replace a numeral or two instead of typing the whole thing. Why the inconsistency?

I'm happy to report that they fixed the problem discussed above (I'm sorry the screenshots from back then are gone; the server had a case of the hiccups or something, and a bunch of screenshots were lost). Now when you click on the Scale caret in the lower right corner of the screen and select User Defined from the drop-down it comes in like this:

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[berg_lauritz]

Is it still f*ing up the labeling for drawings?

I.e. if you change from custom scale 1:10 to sheet scale (which is also 1:10) it keeps the scale in the label etc.....

[Glenn Schroeder]

Is it still f*ing up the labeling for drawings?

I.e. if you change from custom scale 1:10 to sheet scale (which is also 1:10) it keeps the scale in the label etc.....

If you have a note calling out the view scale, and you change the view scale to the sheet scale, the text calling out the view scale does not disappear automatically, if that's what you're asking. Did it ever?

[berg_lauritz]

If you have a note calling out the view scale, and you change the view scale to the sheet scale, the text calling out the view scale does not disappear automatically, if that's what you're asking. Did it ever?

No. I was hoping they fixed that too.