How can this be possible???
-
- Posts: 194
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 pm
- x 37
- x 95
How can this be possible???
How can it be possible that a single constraint overconstrains a component??? How can a component with ZERO constraints be limited to moving in only one axis??? GAHHHH!!!!! I HATE SOLIDWORKS!!!
- AlexLachance
- Posts: 2179
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am
- Location: Quebec
- x 2361
- x 2011
Re: How can this be possible???
Is the component fixed?
- Glenn Schroeder
- Posts: 1520
- Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:43 am
- Location: southeast Texas
- x 1758
- x 2129
Re: How can this be possible???
Ctrl+Q can be your friend.
"On the days when I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days."
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
-
- Posts: 194
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 pm
- x 37
- x 95
-
- Posts: 194
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 pm
- x 37
- x 95
Re: How can this be possible???
Yes, but not this time. Yet another case where SW required delete and start over.
- Glenn Schroeder
- Posts: 1520
- Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:43 am
- Location: southeast Texas
- x 1758
- x 2129
Re: How can this be possible???
That would have been my next suggestion.Uncle_Hairball wrote: βFri Feb 23, 2024 12:41 pm Yes, but not this time. Yet another case where SW required delete and start over.
"On the days when I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days."
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
Re: How can this be possible???
I hate this about SW. Hate it with every fibre of my being.Uncle_Hairball wrote: βFri Feb 23, 2024 12:41 pm Yes, but not this time. Yet another case where SW required delete and start over.
It reminds me of this... Except, with SW and scenarios like this because it fails, you are required to do the exact same thing again to acheive the desired result.
Re: How can this be possible???
Ctrl+Shift+Q might help if there are configurations
Re: How can this be possible???
Are you using flexible subassemblies?
- AlexLachance
- Posts: 2179
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am
- Location: Quebec
- x 2361
- x 2011
Re: How can this be possible???
Was the component part of a symetry or a pattern? If so, an instance from either could have been the one "locking" it in place.Uncle_Hairball wrote: βFri Feb 23, 2024 12:41 pm Yes, but not this time. Yet another case where SW required delete and start over.
-
- Posts: 194
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 pm
- x 37
- x 95
-
- Posts: 194
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 pm
- x 37
- x 95
Re: How can this be possible???
Hmmm... wish I could check because that's a realistic possibility. Too bad I already fixed it. Delete and reconstruct.AlexLachance wrote: βMon Feb 26, 2024 7:57 am Was the component part of a symmetry or a pattern? If so, an instance from either could have been the one "locking" it in place.
- AlexLachance
- Posts: 2179
- Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:14 am
- Location: Quebec
- x 2361
- x 2011
Re: How can this be possible???
When I'm getting some weird behavior like that in an assembly, I bring the bar back up to remove the patterns and mirrors.Uncle_Hairball wrote: βMon Feb 26, 2024 2:21 pm Hmmm... wish I could check because that's a realistic possibility. Too bad I already fixed it. Delete and reconstruct.
It's also a habit I have which helps in keeping assemblies lighter. I've seen a lot of people not bother with mating to the original component and then have trouble with their assemblies so I've incorporated it in my workflow for large assemblies.
- CarrieIves
- Posts: 163
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:19 am
- Location: Richardson, TX
- x 376
- x 136
Re: How can this be possible???
We don't always get mates deleted when components are deleted. I have found that sometimes those will come back if a component was deleted and then added back to the assembly. So, I put a component in (forgetting that it had been in that assembly weeks ago) and try to add new constraints to put it where I think it should be. It will yell because it has unsupressed the mates that had been suppressed when I deleted the component.
Are there external references that could be driving this?
Are there external references that could be driving this?
Re: How can this be possible???
Mates does not get deleted if you dismiss the delete confirmation dialog with delete children disabled.CarrieIves wrote: βMon Feb 26, 2024 2:43 pm We don't always get mates deleted when components are deleted. I have found that sometimes those will come back if a component was deleted and then added back to the assembly. So, I put a component in (forgetting that it had been in that assembly weeks ago) and try to add new constraints to put it where I think it should be. It will yell because it has unsupressed the mates that had been suppressed when I deleted the component.
Are there external references that could be driving this?
In addition, under system option-error messages there is a checkbox to dismiss missing mates errors in the tree and they are brushed under the rug making the assy slow as those mates are calculated before being suppressed.
missing mates are errors and should not be dismissed.
-
- Posts: 194
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:21 pm
- x 37
- x 95
Re: How can this be possible???
I think Alex was right. I just had the same thing happen again and it turned out there were mates on both ends of a mirror.
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions!
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions!
- Glenn Schroeder
- Posts: 1520
- Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:43 am
- Location: southeast Texas
- x 1758
- x 2129
Re: How can this be possible???
Sometimes it's unavoidable, but I try to avoid mating to components brought in with a pattern or mirror.Uncle_Hairball wrote: βTue Feb 27, 2024 12:44 pm I think Alex was right. I just had the same thing happen again and it turned out there were mates on both ends of a mirror.
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions!
"On the days when I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days."
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
Re: How can this be possible???
That was what I was about to suggest as it happened to me in a large assy with mirrored parts... the mates were added to the mirrored parts instead of the parents... it's easy to make this mistake, especially when you have a very symmetrical assy and don't specifically check where in the tree you're working while selecting components in the graphics area for mating.Uncle_Hairball wrote: βTue Feb 27, 2024 12:44 pm I think Alex was right. I just had the same thing happen again and it turned out there were mates on both ends of a mirror.
Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions!
One help I've found is to color the key parent parts at the assy level, OR live by the rule of always working in a specific quadrant for symmetric assemblies.
Re: How can this be possible???
You call also roll the feature tree back above all the patterns/mirrors so they are invisible and unavailable for mates. Out of sight, out of mind.
- Glenn Schroeder
- Posts: 1520
- Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:43 am
- Location: southeast Texas
- x 1758
- x 2129
Re: How can this be possible???
That's what I usually do.
"On the days when I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, well, I have really good days."
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"
Ray Wylie Hubbard in his song "Mother Blues"