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I might have troll him in old forum.
LOL

The only reason to use the swamp is because there are some SolidWorks ppl on there. I really hate this thing more & more everyday...

berg_lauritz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:02 pm The only reason to use the swamp is because there are some SolidWorks ppl on there. I really hate this thing more & more everyday...

I get the feeling that the VARs and SW Partners have been told they are not allowed to use any forum, if they are going to be active they must use the SWYMp.

I got that impression as well. Some of the more active posters on the other forum are nowhere to be found here. I have to assume that is due to pressure from DSS.

SPerman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:49 pm I got that impression as well. Some of the more active posters on the other forum are nowhere to be found here. I have to assume that is due to pressure from DSS.

Many of them are also less and less found on the other forum.

It is good to know about the "foe" setting. So far I've only encountered one user who will be on that list.

Is there a foe list? LOL

MJuric wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:55 am Ok, which one of you is responsible for this?
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I like these too lol

Yes.

I mean how many added me as foe LOL

SPerman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:46 pm Yes.

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Whew. Close call for me.

Post the same question over and over, with undefined and open sketches, and see where you end up.

"I'm watching you @.@"
LOL
SwYmP is good today.

Nevermind. I failed at inserting a gif.

I caught the SWYMP banner at a funny moment today

https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... 6mTSAkNJjg

I am not sure am i being too demanding or what... but the upcoming seem kind of lacking... consider the amount of TIME that we had "waited" And also

From that, there was a mix of 423 posts and questions that experienced issues where we could not migrate those entries' associated media, comments & replies.

Well.. data loss in the cloud?

And Forum Manager can't post a photo:

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:53 pm And Forum Manager can't post a photo:
3DSwym-65.jpg

Did you end up deleting your comment on that particular post, or did he remove it?

He removed it after he updated the photo.
"If I didn't see it, it didn't happen."
I know someone DSS can hire.

Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:03 pm He removed it after he updated the photo.
"If I didn't see it, it didn't happen."
I know someone DSS can hire.

Seems a bit uncouth to remove a comment that is just poking fun. He surely can't justify this comment removal?

There are too many of those already. Probably that's part of his job.

AlexB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:41 pm I caught the SWYMP banner at a funny moment today

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I wonder if this is what drove the enhancement
Remove the last message that appears below community names for a cleaner view

I don't seem to recall anyone on the forums asking for this one...

I still kinda feel bad for the people trying to get the SWYMp to work. The old cliché of "trying to polish a turd" keeps coming to mind. Then that makes think of the cleanup efforts they've been trying and it reminds me of those horror photos people post of when their new Roomba has done it's job on the hard wood floors after the dog did his job on the hard wood floors.

Then there's a handful of jokers the stop by to feed the dog chilly and make sure the Roomba is charging for the next round.

Diaval wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:15 am I wonder if this is what drove the enhancement
Remove the last message that appears below community names for a cleaner view

I don't seem to recall anyone on the forums asking for this one...

What's funnier is the fact that it appears to be implemented already. However only on the Solidworks User Forum, other communities still have it...so you're probably right.

So here's the list of "enhancements" and as far as I can tell the only one currently implemented is that one.

I only have one enhancement for them:

Purchase actual forum software and abandon trying to "shoehorn" this functionality into your PLM platform.

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:25 pm I only have one enhancement for them:

Purchase actual forum software and abandon trying to "shoehorn" this functionality into your PLM platform.

Is 3DE/3DSyWm a PLM software or just a another Facebook? I'm genuinely curious because, well the information available defining what it is...S%*KS.

Does the platform actual deal with PLM stuff, tracking parts, EC's etc? Does it replace PDM? Also curious because it was my impression you could move to the platform with your existing PDM.

MJuric wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:58 am Is 3DE/3DSyWm a PLM software or just a another Facebook? I'm genuinely curious because, well the information available defining what it is...S%*KS.

Does the platform actual deal with PLM stuff, tracking parts, EC's etc? Does it replace PDM? Also curious because it was my impression you could move to the platform with your existing PDM.

IMO, the 3DEXPERIENCE stuff is more like a "cloud" replacement for PDM&PLM
Based on my understanding, you could not used PDM and the 3DEXPERIENCE together.

Does the platform deal with PLM stuff? Yes, but it seem like you need to purchase their "3DEXPERIENCE PLM" role or something

Does it replace PDM? That depends.

Not to mention it had tons of limitations, eg: no adds in, no toolbox, no api support, require an internet connection.
https://www.javelin-tech.com/blog/2020/ ... rks-cloud/



The 3DSWYM, on the other hand, is something different. (FYI SWYM means Say What You Mean, except you cant say because of the bad interface at the moment)
Dassault call it as "Social Innovation Application", which to me is just another rip off of Facebook and other social media

3DSwYm is a social enterprise platform that goes beyond today’s mostly static corporate intranets and information systems, transforming the way companies and their employees can drive innovation and contribute actively to company’s vision and strategy. Designed to dynamically share and leverage knowledge, 3DSwYm creates value by enabling organizations to uncover and harness individual talents and ideas inside and outside the company, including partners, suppliers, consumers or any other stakeholder. Connecting via communities brings objectives and content more sharply into focus and helps everyone concentrate on an organization's strategic priorities. These communities foster powerful synergies, creating an open and participative approach.

Does it work effectively as a platform? No
Does it work effectively in sharing and storing information? No
Does it work? I dunno, but most of us will say No

What da...........???


Also, has anyone noticed that the "negative" posts seem to be broken. Strange how that works.....


This is what I see when I click on " Consider using AI to make SWYM work well". Other more "positive" threads work just fine.

mike miller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:35 am What da...........???

2021-07-02 09_25_52.jpg



Also, has anyone noticed that the "negative" posts seem to be broken. Strange how that works.....


This is what I see when I click on " Consider using AI to make SWYM work well". Other more "positive" threads work just fine.

2021-07-02 09_32_09.jpg

Seems ok to me.
It just that a very long time to load for me
The performance in the platform is really bad.
Things will be "fast" on cloud they say, is this how "fast" it is?

Darnit, you guys broke my thread over there. I was serious. AI can fix everything, even the SWYMp.

Zhen-Wei Tee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:24 am IMO, the 3DEXPERIENCE stuff is more like a "cloud" replacement for PDM&PLM
Based on my understanding, you could not used PDM and the 3DEXPERIENCE together.

Does the platform deal with PLM stuff? Yes, but it seem like you need to purchase their "3DEXPERIENCE PLM" role or something

Does it replace PDM? That depends.

Not to mention it had tons of limitations, eg: no adds in, no toolbox, no api support, require an internet connection.
https://www.javelin-tech.com/blog/2020/ ... rks-cloud/



The 3DSWYM, on the other hand, is something different. (FYI SWYM means Say What You Mean, except you cant say because of the bad interface at the moment)
Dassault call it as "Social Innovation Application", which to me is just another rip off of Facebook and other social media


Does it work effectively as a platform? No
Does it work effectively in sharing and storing information? No
Does it work? I dunno, but most of us will say No

I thought 3DExperience and the Swym platform went hand in hand. Can you actually install 3DSyWm separate from the 3DExperience stuff?

Not sure why I even bother to try and understand this, no way we are moving to it anytime in the near future since it doens't support any 3rd party software at the moment. FWIW it supposedly supports tool box now...but not CAMWorks or Driveworks.

mike miller wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:35 am What da...........???

2021-07-02 09_25_52.jpg

What is that?

MJuric wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:35 am
What is that?

I believe that was a collection of methane bubbles surfacing in the SWYMp.

Diaval wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:15 am I wonder if this is what drove the enhancement
Remove the last message that appears below community names for a cleaner view

I don't seem to recall anyone on the forums asking for this one...

I called it out as a pointless feature at one point given that there was no context for it, and clicking on it didn't take you to that specific message so you couldn't find out more anyway.

dave.laban wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:32 am I called it out as a pointless feature at one point given that there was no context for it, and clicking on it didn't take you to that specific message so you couldn't find out more anyway.

Ah, so one of those posts that scrolled off the page into oblivion.... I still have never been able to get the search to work there. Wonder if I could actually find this?

I'm not even sure I said it as its own topic, I think it was in response to the whole "I've left a community why can I still see it on the left" main issue. I'll see if I can find one of my own posts!

I still see it as a set of adhd community algorithms providing confusing content to sell products that people don't need or want.... or, I'm foolishly lost in its twisted brilliance.

zxys001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:54 am I still see it as a set of adhd community algorithms providing confusing content to sell products that people don't need or want.... or, I'm foolishly lost in its twisted brilliance.

Enlightment hasn't struck us yet, maybe it's in an upcoming service pack.

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:01 am Enlightment hasn't struck us yet, maybe it's in an upcoming service pack.

Exactly, we don't get it because its created to cater to Gen AA, who are just now leaving the womb. What vision Dassault leadership has.

zxys001 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:54 am I still see it as a set of adhd community algorithms providing confusing content to sell products that people don't need or want.... or, I'm foolishly lost in its twisted brilliance.

I think this is exactly correct, it's "Click bait". You see a heading in a community that "Sounds cool" and suddenly you're flipping thru 35 pages of a slide show trying to find that one "Cool" thing you were originally looking for. After you've provided 25 places with "clicks" because the page format shifts so often that by the time you're actual desired click is registered you've landed on something you never wanted to see...you give up and go find a hard copy book to read.

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:01 am Enlightment hasn't struck us yet, maybe it's in an upcoming service pack.

The enlightenment service pack will be released with the SW ZTG service pack...anytime now...

mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:26 pm The enlightenment service pack will be released with the SW ZTG service pack...anytime now...

..what will enlightenment ZTG look like?..

mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 12:26 pm The enlightenment service pack will be released with the SW ZTG service pack...anytime now...

Zero Thickness Geometry is Buddhist CAD.

The geometry has finally reached its state of nothingness, which is the only way to receive the enlightenment.

If anyone can figure out what order these posts are supposed to be, I'll donate $10 to this forum. https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... 28WB8kijoA

Also, check out the video of the frustrating search tool. Notice how I click on the search results and it does absolutely nothing, even though it looks like it will. I can't believe how difficult it is to actually use that interface.

mike miller wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:42 am If anyone can figure out what order these posts are supposed to be, I'll donate $10 to this forum. https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... 28WB8kijoA

Also, check out the video of the frustrating search tool. Notice how I click on the search results and it does absolutely nothing, even though it looks like it will. I can't believe how difficult it is to actually use that interface.

Looks like the migration of that thread was akin to the difference between McNuggets and Chicken strips. They took the whole thing, put it through a grinder several times, pressed it into a mold, cooked it, put some kind of breaded covering on it and called it a thread. Good luck.

Actually why bother? That thread is sooooo ooooooldd what good could a conversation from four months ago be in our fast paced disruptively collaborative innovating world? Get with the times man!

bnemec wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:01 am Looks like the migration of that thread was akin to the difference between McNuggets and Chicken strips. They took the whole thing, put it through a grinder several times, pressed it into a mold, cooked it, put some kind of breaded covering on it and called it a thread. Good luck.

Actually why bother? That thread is sooooo ooooooldd what good could a conversation from four months ago be in our fast paced disruptively collaborative innovating world? Get with the times C'mon man!

FIFY

mike miller wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:42 am If anyone can figure out what order these posts are supposed to be, I'll donate $10 to this forum. https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... 28WB8kijoA

Also, check out the video of the frustrating search tool. Notice how I click on the search results and it does absolutely nothing, even though it looks like it will. I can't believe how difficult it is to actually use that interface.

Yea, migrated thread had been a mess, if the original thread is using reply to reply, quote, the formatting is really screwed.

For searching, I can comment on this...
We had a pretty long discussion with Lin last month on the Search, check out this post in the swymp https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... CE2lVHZPEQ

If you are a normal user
You need to click the arrow on the right and select the Preview After that you need to click the open button which is blocked by the interface It seem like Lin had removed some of his reply, but according to him, he can get it to work by "DOUBLE CLICK"-ing but it seem to only work for DS account, not normal user

Maybe we are seeing it wrong. The platform do WORK, but only if you are from DS

Zhen-Wei Tee wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:08 am Yea, migrated thread had been a mess, if the original thread is using reply to reply, quote, the formatting is really screwed.

For searching, I can comment on this...
We had a pretty long discussion with Lin last month on the Search, check out this post in the swymp https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... CE2lVHZPEQ

If you are a normal user
You need to click the arrow on the right and select the Preview
image.png
After that you need to click the open button which is blocked by the interface
image.png

It seem like Lin had removed some of his reply, but according to him, he can get it to work by "DOUBLE CLICK"-ing but it seem to only work for DS account, not normal user

Maybe we are seeing it wrong. The platform do WORK, but only if you are from DS

How badly programmed can a platform be when your own staff has to learn on the fly how to use it, just like regular users.

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:15 am How badly programmed can a platform be when your own staff has to learn on the fly how to use it, just like regular users.

Typical symptoms of unchecked feature bloat. Nobody or the the wrong body overseeing the project. All the gizmos and widgets went completely out of control and created a monstrosity that is so unpredictable nobody understands what it does or how it's going to behave. Can you imagine what a complete test case plan would look like for the SWYM? I can only assume it was not done.

Do they realize the SWYM is what people see of the 3DExperience? The SWYM is what sets precedence of the perception of how all they other apps will be like in the platform. Why would anyone buy that is beyond me.

mike miller wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:42 am
Also, check out the video of the frustrating search tool. Notice how I click on the search results and it does absolutely nothing, even though it looks like it will. I can't believe how difficult it is to actually use that interface.

And yet, despite that difficulty, you are still going to that site, feeding their click count.