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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:22 pm
by matt
mattpeneguy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:01 am Correction:
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ayayayyyy. You guys are brutal. I'd go over and offer them some help, but that might not be seen as totally sincere. Plus, I'm sure they've got a committee on top of the situation... UU

Y'all keep throwing gas on that dumpster fire, it's bound to go out sometime. ;;

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:24 pm
by mattpeneguy
christian chu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:18 pm it's ashamed that I'm still learning how to use sw*m site
Once you come to understand that the whole point of the platform is obfuscation, things make much more sense...

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:39 pm
by mattpeneguy
matt wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:22 pm ayayayyyy. You guys are brutal. I'd go over and offer them some help, but that might not be seen as totally sincere. Plus, I'm sure they've got a committee on top of the situation... UU

Y'all keep throwing gas on that dumpster fire, it's bound to go out sometime. ;;
It's just too easy...It's like they just leave the full gas cans lying around everywhere over there...

But, I do really feel sorry for the people that have to work on it. I'm sure they're good people, and taking pride in your work is important. It reminds me of that guy Ryan Priddy. He took a lot of heat and was placed in a bad spot handling all of our wrath, but he really had no ability to fix anything. That's why whenever I see someone comment on one of those guy's intelligence or ability, I'm quick to jump in. Those people individually aren't the problem. It's got to be difficult and what's that saying, "all the responsibility but none of the authority"...

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:31 am
by Glenn Schroeder
christian chu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:18 pm it's ashamed that I'm still learning how to use sw*m site
You shouldn't be. I'm not ashamed that I'm not willing to invest the time needed to learn how to use it.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:46 am
by SPerman
I'm still baffled you guys spend so much time over there, only to come back here and complain how bad it is?

I guarantee you somewhere at DSS there is a manager looking at all the activity and click counts and screaming "Victory!" He could care less that 90% of the activity is bashing his product. Traffic is traffic.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:17 am
by DennisD
SPerman wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:46 am I'm still baffled you guys spend so much time over there, only to come back here and complain how bad it is?

I guarantee you somewhere at DSS there is a manager looking at all the activity and click counts and screaming "Victory!" He could care less that 90% of the activity is bashing his product. Traffic is traffic.
I am in the "user focus group" that they didn't start listening to until waaaayyy too late. There is a DSS executive in that group that is doing EXACTKY that! They are smokin' their own dope!

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:27 am
by bnemec
mattpeneguy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:24 pm Once you come to understand that the whole point of the platform is obfuscation, things make become much more sense clear...
FIFY

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:27 pm
by christian chu
SPerman wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:46 am I'm still baffled you guys spend so much time over there, only to come back here and complain how bad it is?

I guarantee you somewhere at DSS there is a manager looking at all the activity and click counts and screaming "Victory!" He could care less that 90% of the activity is bashing his product. Traffic is traffic.
Actually, I did google search and was pointed to that site. Clicking on the search item and can't expand it - I thought what's the heck ... Don't have time to find the tricks of using the site which is supposed to be friendly to the users
By the way, I've not complained at all as I wanted to find a way to find a result from my search

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:30 pm
by bnemec
christian chu wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:27 pm Actually, I did google search and was pointed to that site. Clicking on the search item and can't expand it - I thought what's the heck ... Don't have time to find the tricks of using the site which is supposed to be friendly to the users
it is? :?: :!: That's news to me.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:39 pm
by mattpeneguy
Another helpful graphic:
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:40 pm
by MJuric
mattpeneguy wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:39 pm Another helpful graphic:
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I would take a cloud version of SW that is stable, does what you think it should, is consistent, doesn't run out of resources and crash and many more over the Desktop version I currently have. :D

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:51 pm
by mattpeneguy
I couldn't help myself...
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:56 pm
by bnemec
MJuric wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:40 pm I would take a cloud version of SW that is stable, does what you think it should, is consistent, doesn't run out of resources and crash and many more over the Desktop version I currently have. :D
... and had APIs

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:30 pm
by SPerman
mattpeneguy wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:39 pm Another helpful graphic:
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I'm tempted to login just to vote on that poll.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:49 am
by Glenn Schroeder
Soooo. . . I went there this morning (I have https://r1132100503382-eu1-3dswym.3dexp ... dgY7-jbZPg bookmarked). I was out sick yesterday, so thought I'd catch up. I could only go back to some time yesterday. That was annoying.

Also, it showed I have Notifications. I click on the icon to show them . . . and it just says "Loading", with nothing happening.

I don't know why I still bother, other than the occasional chance to help someone with a problem, which I enjoy. However, I'm beginning to think the frustration outweighs any advantages. I don't want to have to double up on my blood pressure medication.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:23 am
by MJuric
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:49 am
Also, it showed I have Notifications. I click on the icon to show them . . . and it just says "Loading", with nothing happening.
That's been that way for...well forever. Sometimes it loads right up, other times...nothing.

Notifications over there are awful in general. Things show up in Notifications that you click on and they don't show up in the post. Seems like you get 2-3 notifications for the same thing. "Unread notifications" number rarely actually matches how many unread notifications you actually have.

Some posted that depending on how you get to a post, via the main view or via the notifications, sometimes none of the responses are visible.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:33 am
by MJuric
So did it finally just completely implode?
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:17 pm
by mattpeneguy
MJuric wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:33 am So did it finally just completely implode?

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Nah, it's back up.

I'm a little disappointed it appears they've been deleting some of the memes I was posting over there from the media library. I guess that was inevitable, but for a while it was pretty funny because every 5th or 6th picture as you scrolled in the media was some stupid meme about how awful the platform is...They left some of them, but nowhere near what was there before...And unfortunately the "Full Moon" one is gone. I thought that one was particularly funny (though, probably the most over the line.)

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:50 pm
by Dtief190
I signed in today, just to re check that it's still a mess.... Not that I didn't think it wouldn't be. No, I don't go there much, since it's useless. Maybe once every other week so I don't contribute much to the traffic counter.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:08 pm
by mattpeneguy
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:11 pm
by MJuric
mattpeneguy wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:17 pm Nah, it's back up.

I'm a little disappointed it appears they've been deleting some of the memes I was posting over there from the media library. I guess that was inevitable, but for a while it was pretty funny because every 5th or 6th picture as you scrolled in the media was some stupid meme about how awful the platform is...They left some of them, but nowhere near what was there before...And unfortunately the "Full Moon" one is gone. I thought that one was particularly funny (though, probably the most over the line.)
I think they are doing some pretty heavy moderating over there and/Or the data integrity is just falling apart. I've seen responses, mostly negative ones, disappear as well as some unfavorable posts go away.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 1:31 pm
by mattpeneguy
Huh, I was wrong, there it is. I couldn't find it before:
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Hey @matt, you were asking for emoji suggestions...how about that one?

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:16 am
by mattpeneguy
Just a couple more for the media library over there:
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Once they're available in the media library, please feel free to use them and any other ones I've posted. That's what the media library is there for.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:25 am
by Glenn Schroeder
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It's not completely useless. It does a fine job of serving as a bad example.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:52 pm
by IndianaDave
I decided to join my former VAR (CATI) 3DExperience user group Webinar this afternoon...
It was basically a sales pitch trying to sell the platform.
"Over 400 apps" on the platform you can use...
They showed XForm? I think... feeform modeling on the cloud.
I asked why they didn't just improve, or add the functionality to the Solidworks surfacing capabilities.
I guess it's on a whole different kernel, but can be imported into Solidworks, and can maintain associativity with the XForm model...

I told them, for our purposes, and most likely 95% of their customers, a more robust, reliable, stable CAD program is all we want.
I did mention what a mess the website is, and how difficult it is to make sense of what exactly it is, and where stuff is.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:40 am
by mattpeneguy
IndianaDave wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:52 pm I decided to join my former VAR (CATI) 3DExperience user group Webinar this afternoon...
It was basically a sales pitch trying to sell the platform.
"Over 400 apps" on the platform you can use...
They showed XForm? I think... feeform modeling on the cloud.
I asked why they didn't just improve, or add the functionality to the Solidworks surfacing capabilities.
I guess it's on a whole different kernel, but can be imported into Solidworks, and can maintain associativity with the XForm model...

I told them, for our purposes, and most likely 95% of their customers, a more robust, reliable, stable CAD program is all we want.
I did mention what a mess the website is, and how difficult it is to make sense of what exactly it is, and where stuff is.
And I expect this was how it went:
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Good for trying...but you aren't speaking to the people who make those decisions...they're tasked with selling the garbage...

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:20 am
by berg_lauritz
IndianaDave wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:52 pm I decided to join my former VAR (CATI) 3DExperience user group Webinar this afternoon...
It was basically a sales pitch trying to sell the platform.
"Over 400 apps" on the platform you can use...
They showed XForm? I think... feeform modeling on the cloud.
I asked why they didn't just improve, or add the functionality to the Solidworks surfacing capabilities.
I guess it's on a whole different kernel, but can be imported into Solidworks, and can maintain associativity with the XForm model...

I told them, for our purposes, and most likely 95% of their customers, a more robust, reliable, stable CAD program is all we want.
I did mention what a mess the website is, and how difficult it is to make sense of what exactly it is, and where stuff is.
Next time ask him about if this platform supports macros...

tu

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:46 pm
by mattpeneguy
At some time, I'm going to get tired of posting this:
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That time hasn't come, yet...

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:07 pm
by mattpeneguy
It's just too easy:

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Here's the file if anyone wants it as an avatar or to post it:
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:55 am
by zxys001
Nostradamus predicted all of this would happen.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:42 am
by mattpeneguy
zxys001 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:55 am Nostradamus predicted all of this would happen.
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This the same guy?
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:48 am
by zxys001
mattpeneguy wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:42 am This the same guy?
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Yep, it's true, I had coffee with him in 1999,.. seemed like a rational guy who said he was miss understood. **

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:07 am
by mattpeneguy
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:00 pm
by mattpeneguy
Just too easy, I tell you...
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:47 am
by zxys001
..ah,.. the best part was seeing that blow hole get all choked up (like our most recent opportunist dumpsters)

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:26 pm
by mattpeneguy
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Courtesy of @Frederick_Law...

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:26 pm
by mattpeneguy
It's fulfilling to see the media library properly populated with relevant images:
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:46 pm
by berg_lauritz
@mattpeneguy I love & hate your saltiness.

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:11 pm
by mattpeneguy
Save your hate for over there...but, seems like they like you:
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Don't worry, I tried to set them straight:
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:50 am
by zwei
I just notice this...
The idea is OUT

It will be more interesting if they put the status as DROWNED instead of OUT since it is a SWYMP ;)
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:14 am
by Frederick_Law
LOL It was out long time ago.
Still got a few other going.

We might get a pager for notice ;;

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:42 pm
by jcapriotti
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:25 am It's not completely useless. It does a fine job of serving as a bad example.
@mattpeneguy

Feel free to add this to the 'library'
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:35 pm
by mattpeneguy
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:42 pm @mattpeneguy

Feel free to add this to the 'library'

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Perfect!

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:48 pm
by mattpeneguy
Here's another good one:
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:03 pm
by mattpeneguy
And another one:
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:44 pm
by mattpeneguy
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Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:04 am
by Reennie
You guys are on a mission.... oa

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:56 am
by mike miller
mattpeneguy wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:44 pmPlanning.png
Matt, you should apply for a job at despair.com. :lol:

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:26 am
by mattpeneguy
mike miller wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:56 am Matt, you should apply for a job at despair.com. :lol:
Despair.com should just by the 3DXP platform...

Re: Does anyone actually use 3DExperience? Still waiting.......

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:24 am
by jcapriotti
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