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What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:34 pm
by jcapriotti
What's with the fascination of naming products "X" something? Is it because X is underused in words? Obsession with the X-Men comics? X-rated movie aficionados?

Dassaults xApps (xDesign, xShape, xGenerative Design) Lowercase x
SolidWorks (DimXpert, DraftXpert, FeatureXpert, FilletXpert, MateXpert, SketchXpert) Uppercase X <()>
XPLM (PLM Integration company)
Solid Edge (Xcelerator Share)
Bluebeam eXtreme edition (Ok not just x but they capitalize it)

Is this just xtreme marketing xperts that like to make xceptions to the rules to try and further xploit their customers by appearing to be xtra hip?

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:36 pm
by zxys001
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:34 pm What's with the fascination of naming products "X" something? Is it because X is underused in words? Obsession with the X-Men comics? X-rated movie aficionados?

Dassaults xApps (xDesign, xShape, xGenerative Design) Lowercase x
SolidWorks (DimXpert, DraftXpert, FeatureXpert, FilletXpert, MateXpert, SketchXpert) Uppercase X <()>
XPLM (PLM Integration company)
Solid Edge (Xcelerator Share)
Bluebeam eXtreme edition (Ok not just x but they capitalize it)

Is this just xtreme marketing xperts that like to make xceptions to the rules to try and further xploit their customers by appearing to be xtra hip?
Xactly! UU

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:30 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
. . . and it's Xceptionally annoying.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:34 pm
by zxys001
Xpletive, Xpletive,... ;;

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:42 pm
by MJuric
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:34 pm What's with the fascination of naming products "X" something? Is it because X is underused in words? Obsession with the X-Men comics? X-rated movie aficionados?

Dassaults xApps (xDesign, xShape, xGenerative Design) Lowercase x
SolidWorks (DimXpert, DraftXpert, FeatureXpert, FilletXpert, MateXpert, SketchXpert) Uppercase X <()>
XPLM (PLM Integration company)
Solid Edge (Xcelerator Share)
Bluebeam eXtreme edition (Ok not just x but they capitalize it)

Is this just xtreme marketing xperts that like to make xceptions to the rules to try and further xploit their customers by appearing to be xtra hip?
People got bored with "i"?

The real reason is that for the most part people are quite unimaginative and afraid to be different. Even those that are trying to be different end up being exactly different like a bunch of other people.

I think one of the most glaring examples of this is in general media news. It's amazing how "The same" news of every type is down to the words used. I remember someone put together a montage of news people saying "gravitas" in reference to Cheney during that presidential campaign. Here's a word that has been around forever that you rarely heard and suddenly you couldn't turn on a Top 40's music station without hearing a quick news clip with "gravitas" said somewhere in it.

Sorry, rant over, but in reality "x" is just another one of those. Soon it will be something else. I also can't wait for "Industry 4.0" and "ai" to die as well.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:00 pm
by jcapriotti
MJuric wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:42 pm People got bored with "i"?

Yeah, Autodesk really jumped on that bandwagon.
MJuric wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:42 pm The real reason is that for the most part people are quite unimaginative and afraid to be different. Even those that are trying to be different end up being exactly different like a bunch of other people.
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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:28 pm
by KennyG
It defies xplanation and is xceptionally xhausting!

By the way, the Xcelerator Share is named that way as it is part of the Siemens Xcelerator portfolio.
https://www.sw.siemens.com/en-US/digita ... formation/

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:31 pm
by KennyG
Maybe they are just big fans of DMX and his song "X Gon' Give It To Ya"!

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:48 pm
by mike miller
It's a Freudian slip referencing all the X-users of their software.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:18 pm
by Lucas
This topic gave me hope about a xFiles tab

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:50 am
by bnemec
Just think about how much of your subscription money goes to the fat salary of the marketing people that come up with all these "original" trademarks where the name says nothing about function. :roll:

"all the cool kids are using X, so we need to get with the times and use X too." What's next? Pig Latin in the "What's new"? Give them time, it will be cool again.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:13 am
by jcapriotti
bnemec wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:50 am
"all the cool kids are using X, so we need to get with the times and use X too." What's next? Pig Latin in the "What's new"? Give them time, it will be cool again.
I'm betting on Leet speak (1337 5P34K)

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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:23 am
by matt
Aw, crap. And here I was thinking I was so edgy and trendy.
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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:26 am
by bnemec
jcapriotti wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:13 am I'm betting on Leet speak (1337 5P34K)

3D 3XP3r13NC3 15 84D F0r Y0Ur H3417H
great, now I have to go change all my p455w02ds

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:43 am
by SamSpade
This marketing ploy was probably all started by GEN Xers

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:48 am
by jcapriotti
SamSpade wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:43 am This marketing ploy was probably all started by GEN Xers
Ah crap....my generation is to blame.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:50 am
by jcapriotti
matt wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:23 am Aw, crap. And here I was thinking I was so edgy and trendy.

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I here I thought you were trying to identify with Gen Z.......or maybe you just like naps...zzzzzz

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:59 am
by zxys001
Lucas wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:18 pm This topic gave me hope about a xFiles tab
Lucas, you may have found the true Xploitation origin. **

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:00 am
by bnemec
SamSpade wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:43 am This marketing ploy was probably all started by GEN Xers
once you see it:
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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:07 am
by SamSpade
bnemec wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:00 am once you see it:
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Guilt as charged, yes, I am a GEN Xer <()>

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:24 am
by bnemec
SamSpade wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:07 am Guilt as charged, yes, I am a GEN Xer <()>
I couldn't resist, once I saw it. I'm unclaimed, '81, a bit young for X and not a mil.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:25 am
by jcapriotti
bnemec wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:00 am once you see it:
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I totally missed that. :lol:

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:36 pm
by Lucas
zxys001 wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:59 am Lucas, you may have found the true Xploitation origin. **
Guess this curse began in 1895 when Wilhelm Roentgen named the x-ray :lol:

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:04 pm
by jcapriotti
Lucas wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:36 pm Guess this curse began in 1895 when Wilhelm Roentgen named the x-ray :lol:


Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:54 am
by zxys001
PiXel in the news..

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:33 pm
by AlexLachance
it's often used in association with another word.

In most cases, the x is an acronym of "external"

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:48 pm
by jcapriotti
Forgot about XBox which in turn comes from DirectX

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:57 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
AlexLachance wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:33 pm it's often used in association with another word.

In most cases, the x is an acronym of "external"
I use it quite a bit too.

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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:05 pm
by AlexLachance
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:57 pm I use it quite a bit too.


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Well, aren't you clever :lol:

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:08 pm
by MJuric
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:57 pm I use it quite a bit too.


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I think every "Rock" radio station on the planet has an "X" in it's call sign.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:38 pm
by jcapriotti
Ok, I give this one an exception...
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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:34 pm
by zwei
My thought on "X" is that it is always something Xtra and most of the time not needed :lol:

Dassaults xApps (xDesign, xShape, xGenerative Design) Lowercase x
Never really use this and dont think i really need this
SolidWorks (DimXpert, DraftXpert, FeatureXpert, FilletXpert, MateXpert, SketchXpert) Uppercase X
Used once or twice, but in the end I had stick with the non X feature/function


So i guess... they are really Xtra?

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:41 am
by jcapriotti
Zhen-Wei Tee wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:34 pm My thought on "X" is that it is always something Xtra and most of the time not needed :lol:



Never really use this and dont think i really need this


Used once or twice, but in the end I had stick with the non X feature/function


So i guess... they are really Xtra?
Lack of acceptance might question their Xistence.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:29 pm
by Uncle_Hairball
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:34 pm What's with the fascination of naming products "X" something? Is it because X is underused in words? Obsession with the X-Men comics? X-rated movie aficionados?

Dassaults xApps (xDesign, xShape, xGenerative Design) Lowercase x
SolidWorks (DimXpert, DraftXpert, FeatureXpert, FilletXpert, MateXpert, SketchXpert) Uppercase X <()>
XPLM (PLM Integration company)
Solid Edge (Xcelerator Share)
Bluebeam eXtreme edition (Ok not just x but they capitalize it)

Is this just xtreme marketing xperts that like to make xceptions to the rules to try and further xploit their customers by appearing to be xtra hip?
And here I thought it was because they were illiterate. Silly me.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:25 pm
by jcapriotti
Uncle_Hairball wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:29 pm And here I thought it was because they were illiterate. Silly me.
I'd say they are xlliterate.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:54 pm
by zxys001
jcapriotti wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:25 pm I'd say they are xlliterate.
..are you xerus? or, maybe that should, xerus! ;;

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am
by mike miller
The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, I scrolled to the end of the page and saw.........yes really.....coloring book samples. <()> Pinch me guys, am I dreaming?

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:22 am
by JSculley
mike miller wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?


Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:12 am
by zwei
mike miller wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, I scrolled to the end of the page and saw.........yes really.....coloring book samples. <()> Pinch me guys, am I dreaming?
What the hell is that.... :shock:

Also.. free colouring book? Why? so that people can colour it when solidworks is not responding?

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:32 am
by Jaylin Hochstetler
mike miller wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, I scrolled to the end of the page and saw.........yes really.....coloring book samples. <()> Pinch me guys, am I dreaming?
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! Are they trying to market to 6-year olds or what????!! That is absolutely ridiculous!

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:33 am
by mattpeneguy
mike miller wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, I scrolled to the end of the page and saw.........yes really.....coloring book samples. <()> Pinch me guys, am I dreaming?
I keep posting this, there are two groups running things over there, one group makes terrible decisions and the other group cleans up the mess...Guess which one is responsible for this?

Gotta hand it to them though, I never knew it could get this terrible...Well played Dassault...

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:57 am
by Frank_Oostendorp
mattpeneguy wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:33 am I keep posting this, there are two groups running things over there, one group makes terrible decisions and the other group cleans up the mess...Guess which one is responsible for this?

Gotta hand it to them though, I never knew it could get this terrible...Well played Dassault...
Must be a group of very young managers have taken over control at Dassault. >< It's amazing.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:03 am
by jcapriotti
mike miller wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, I scrolled to the end of the page and saw.........yes really.....coloring book samples. <()> Pinch me guys, am I dreaming?
Oh wait...X....X-men...ripoff.....I get it..... <()>

The xDesign guy is clearly Professor Xavier.....sans the wheelchair.

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:07 am
by mattpeneguy
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:03 am Oh wait...X....X-men...ripoff.....I get it..... <()>

The xDesign guy is clearly Professor Xavier.....sans the wheelchair.
Great...not only are our maintenance fees going to this crap, it'll go to defending in a copyright lawsuit from Marvel...

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:25 am
by zwei
jcapriotti wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:03 am Oh wait...X....X-men...ripoff.....I get it..... <()>

The xDesign guy is clearly Professor Xavier.....sans the wheelchair.
Well, everyone of them is wearing a X symbol at their waist one way or the other... :?

Is just me or the part and the mold for xmold dont look like they match... some superpower must be in place here eh? Or is this the expected result when using xmold?
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Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:54 pm
by bnemec
Just saw this while trying to eat my lunch. What in the ...?
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Well, if they keep with this theme for the next 3DXworld it should make for some interesting costumes in the opening sessions. <()>

Since we're on Marvel, this progression of renaming everything with silly names then digging deeper to justify the silly names reminds me of Taser Face trying to justify his glorious name to Rocket and that awkward moment when all his cronies are like "um yeah, ok. I kinda get it."

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:09 pm
by DanPihlaja
mike miller wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:07 am The X hype was just raised by another magnitude. https://super.solidworks.com/ Truly cringe-worthy. And those are the people you trust to store your CAD data?

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, I scrolled to the end of the page and saw.........yes really.....coloring book samples. <()> Pinch me guys, am I dreaming?
Yeah....
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just......wow..

Who is their target market?

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:23 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
DanPihlaja wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:09 pm Who is their target market?
Obviously it's grumpy middle-aged men, like most of us. (My apologies to the cheerful young female members.)

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:24 pm
by bnemec
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:23 pm Obviously it's grumpy middle-aged men, like most of us. (My apologies to the cheerful young female members.)
As I deal with my fading eyesight and memory it's nice to hear you still consider yourself "middle aged." Makes me feel better. Although still grumpy.
UU

Re: What's with the X?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:47 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
bnemec wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:24 pm As I deal with my fading eyesight and memory it's nice to hear you still consider yourself "middle aged." Makes me feel better. Although still grumpy.
UU
Perspectives change. There was a time I would have considered 60 old without a second thought. Now it's middle aged.