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mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:21 pm Hey @Glenn Schroeder , if "they" is LADOTD (which is stuck on v8), I've had decent luck giving people here files with these settings:
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Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:22 pm Hello,

I have a request to save a Solidworks Drawing in a format that MicroStation can use. I know they can open .dwg's, but the one I saved and sent didn't work in this instance. I was told that maybe I should save it in an older version, but I have no idea what version that would be. I saved that one in R2018.

I'm told they use Power InRoads V8i (Select Series 10), if that helps.

Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:28 pm It's a DoT, but not Louisiana. I asked which version they wanted me to save it in, but I don't know if they'll know. If they don't, or if I don't hear back from them in the next day or so I'll try that. Thanks.

zxys001 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:37 pm "DGN" files. I swear I thought they (Bentley) had a SolidWorks import but I believe they are Parasolid based?

Otherwise, DXF.

JSculley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:11 am https://communities.bentley.com/product ... on-formats

Does anyone know anything about MicroStation?

KQuigley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 am Interesting thread, but not that accurate.

Firstly, Bentley Microstation is an industry leader in certain sectors, especially very large scale infrastructure projects. Autodesk and Bentley did a deal many years ago to allow native file format exchange. So Microstation opens dwgs and AutoCAD opens dgn. Interestingly the free Siemens drafting tool and SolidEdge imports native .dgn files as well.

Check this out.

https://www.cadlinecommunity.co.uk/hc/e ... -DGN-files

The issue with infrastructure is that they rarely update software mid project, so an ongoing project will use the software that it started with. That, and also the fact that many simply don’t update annually. So often very old versions are in use.

The Parasolid kernel was developed by Shape Data in the UK, as a follow on kernel product to Romulus (which I worked in). Intergraph had nothing to do with it. Siemens bought them in the late 80s.

Intergraph were the original developers of SolidEdge-but they used ACIS (which was one of the big pro SolidWorks sales pitches back in the day “we use the same kernel as Unigraphics”). When The Unigraphics developers bought SolidEdge in the late 90s they switch kernels to Parasolid. Then Siemens bought them so owning the kernel, the geometry solver (DCubed) and NX and SolidEdge.

There were rumours several years ago of Siemens wanting to buy Bentley….so completing the circle

KQuigley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 am Intergraph were the original developers of SolidEdge-but they used ACIS (which was one of the big pro SolidWorks sales pitches back in the day “we use the same kernel as Unigraphics”). When The Unigraphics developers bought SolidEdge in the late 90s they switch kernels to Parasolid.

zxys001 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:50 pm ..ah, 1985,.. those where the days when pricing was so... reasonable?

KQuigley wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 am Interesting thread, but not that accurate.

Firstly, Bentley Microstation is an industry leader in certain sectors, especially very large scale infrastructure projects. Autodesk and Bentley did a deal many years ago to allow native file format exchange. So Microstation opens dwgs and AutoCAD opens dgn. Interestingly the free Siemens drafting tool and SolidEdge imports native .dgn files as well.

Check this out.

https://www.cadlinecommunity.co.uk/hc/e ... -DGN-files

The issue with infrastructure is that they rarely update software mid project, so an ongoing project will use the software that it started with. That, and also the fact that many simply don’t update annually. So often very old versions are in use.

The Parasolid kernel was developed by Shape Data in the UK, as a follow on kernel product to Romulus (which I worked in). Intergraph had nothing to do with it. Siemens bought them in the late 80s.

Intergraph were the original developers of SolidEdge-but they used ACIS (which was one of the big pro SolidWorks sales pitches back in the day “we use the same kernel as Unigraphics”). When The Unigraphics developers bought SolidEdge in the late 90s they switch kernels to Parasolid. Then Siemens bought them so owning the kernel, the geometry solver (DCubed) and NX and SolidEdge.

There were rumours several years ago of Siemens wanting to buy Bentley….so completing the circle

Conklin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:21 pm All I can say is I cut my teeth on Bently Microstation...
Back in the day...
Some of you Rember DOS?
Well Bently Microstation had a graphical user interface that was far superior to the AutoCad 12 under DOS!
I was great. It is only that Microstation had a Dongel Copy protection device and AutoCad did not that I believe
DWG is the "Standard" today and not DGN.

KennyG wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:18 pm I've said the same regarding AutoCAD... It became #1 because it was easy to pirate! Microstation was (and probably still is) a technically superior product to AutoCAD, and that included their anti-piracy feature. Funny thing is, Autodesk is now one of the most aggressive companies when it comes to going after their software piracy.

jmongi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:58 am It may have been very easy to pirate but in my opinion, the main thing Autodesk did was two-fold. 1. Give steep educational discounts to engineering and drafting programs so that AutoCAD was the defacto CAD program new grads understood. These were fairly easy to pirate if one wanted to, but that was a secondary feature to the proliferation of a generation of engineering graduates who could be functional in AutoCAD with minimal training. 2. Offered AutoCAD LT for small businesses that wouldn't break the bank (and wasn't completely nerfed of all useful features) and allow them to stop pirating and license a legit copy of AutoCAD.

My two cents and my opinion...cheers!