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bnemec wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:10 pm I've tried to follow this in the "Who likes SW2022" thread but there's a lot of material in that thread. Is there a concise explanation of the bug behavior or what workflow(s) it affects? The work around sounds like the bug is just when mirroring parts in an assembly? Is mirroring body in part also affected?

Sorry for the dumb question if this is already obvious somewhere else.

bnemec wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:10 pm I've tried to follow this in the "Who likes SW2022" thread but there's a lot of material in that thread. Is there a concise explanation of the bug behavior or what workflow(s) it affects? The work around sounds like the bug is just when mirroring parts in an assembly? Is mirroring body in part also affected?

Sorry for the dumb question if this is already obvious somewhere else.

This error only happens in a assembly, and only when creating and opposite hand version.

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:29 am Not a dumb question at all.

This error only happens in a assembly, and only when creating and opposite hand version.

all of the other mirroring options seems to be working as intended.

bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:57 am Thank you and @jcapriotti for the clarity. We were looking at maybe updating from '19 to '22 and this issue was concerning as mirror body is our #1 tool for a part that is symmetric. We never use the assembly mirror functionality in the assembly environment; when we need right and left hand parts we use Insert Mirror Part.

Sounds like this is a mute point for our usage

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:37 am I would use the "Create opposite hand" in an assembly mirror, but it creates a reference to the assembly I don't want.

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:44 am Wouldn't this option take care of that reference issue for you?

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jcapriotti wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:41 pm I want to maintain a link between a left hand part and right hand part.....I just don't want any assembly involved.

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 3:58 am Have just been told from my VAR that this wont be fixed until 2023 B1!

how can that be serious? WTF.

So .. did the automobile manufacturing companies decide to only make 1 sided cars?

Unbelievable.

Frank_Oostendorp wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 4:13 am You could suggest your VAR to postpone the subscription fee until 2023 B1 as well?

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 5:18 am no joke ... i sent that to my VAR

"So .. since we wont have a working software until 2023 … does that mean we don’t have to pay for the yearly subscription fee until then also?
I mean .. the whole point in the yearly fees to get all of the latest updates … but if the updates don’t actually work .. I wont be charged for them right?"

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 3:58 am Have just been told from my VAR that this wont be fixed until 2023 B1!

how can that be serious? WTF.

So .. did the automobile manufacturing companies decide to only make 1 sided cars?

Unbelievable.

Frank_Oostendorp wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 6:23 am And the VAR answered? Something like:
- Subscription fee is not only for us, we have to share with Dassault?
- Most of the features are working?
- We try to escalate this bug to get a quick fix.
- Don't forget to schedule your next payment

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 3:58 am Have just been told from my VAR that this wont be fixed until 2023 B1!

how can that be serious? WTF.

So .. did the automobile manufacturing companies decide to only make 1 sided cars?

Unbelievable.

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 10:01 am I see "2023 B1" listed in the Knowledge base for your SPR but its possible its fixed in 2022. The "Fixed in: field only shows one version but I've had some in the past shown fixed in a future version but it was also fixed in a future service pack of the current version.

How many seats of SolidWorks do you have? Maybe push for a hotfix if you can get some management muscle to back you up.


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Peter De Vlieger wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 6:30 am ooh... I had that happen as well in the past, getting notified that an issue I was facing was going to be fixed in some version in the future. Seeing however that it's a Beta version it doens't necessarily mean that the fix will actual work in the released versions.

And, in the of chance that it does get fixed in the SP0... nothing to say that by SP1 it's not broken again.
No that is not me being unduly cynical but talking from experience.

There's an issue in routing that I spend years on getting someone to listen... it then took a few years for them to see that the error wasn't user inflicted but due to software... it then took +1 year for them to finally figure out what caused it, several SP's past by without it being fixed, and since that time it's been a crap shoot if the issue is fixed or not depending on year and SP. And yes at the moment (2021SP5) it's broken AGAIN.

Seeing however that it's a sub function that barely anyone uses (because it's been broken on and off now for more then a decade) in a module that is only used by a very small sub set of users and most of those have pretty much given up on using anything more then the bare bare minimum of functions... who cares, eh? It's not as if those user have to pay a premium to have to deal with the lack of quality control.... oh wait, yes seeing that one can only experience that demonstration of utterly lack of consistency when one has bought Solidworks Premium (which roughly sells for double the price of a basic seat)

Heck, if I ever would go to the yearly event I wouldn't be applauding but asking anyone in management including Gian Paolo Bassi to stop with their vomit inducing marketing speak and instead tell what they actually do to earn their overpaid cushy jobs because it sure isn't making a better product.
(sorry, had to rant, just fed up with all kinds of functionalities that aren't working as advertised, if it wasn't that there is no viable alternative I would advice my boss to drop Solidworks like a hot rotten potato.)

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:36 pm Update:

Just heard from our VAR. Mirroring issue will not be resolved until 4th quarter of this year.

in the mean time, i guess its 1 handed vehicles to be sold until the end of the year.

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:57 pm They must've really coded themselves into a corner.

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:36 pm Mirroring issue will not be resolved until 4th quarter of this year.

Tera wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:44 am I wonder what will be broken then. In my experience with SW, correcting something means breaking something else.
To me, it's a new type of marketing. If they don't resolve mirroring bug, we have to extend our subscription.
Who can use a cad system that's not able to mirror?

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:58 am Honestly, talk with your VAR's. They will certainly try to help as best as they can, and the argument you just made of being dependant of next year could be one you could use to either get some sort of "rebate" or maybe even have a free year added to your current subscription(Wouldn't that be awesome).

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:58 am Honestly, talk with your VAR's. They will certainly try to help as best as they can, and the argument you just made of being dependant of next year could be one you could use to either get some sort of "rebate" or maybe even have a free year added to your current subscription(Wouldn't that be awesome).

Bradfordzzz wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:54 am Solidworks 2022 SP3 has been released, and you will all not be surprised to learn that the mirroring is just as broken as it has been.

zxys001 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:50 am

AlexLachance wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:50 am I didn't quite get that Paul, care to explain?

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:49 pm I would pressure them for a fix in 2022.....get your management involved and ask to speak directly with SolidWorks. If its costing you money, spell it out for them. Frustrating I know, but if your are loud enough, it can be done.