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The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:11 am
by Lapuo
I opened file and after CTRL+Q feature tree is red and yellow.
First error is with cut extrude option and it says "the feature cant cut the body" .
I cant add any new features because of same error.
Same file on another PC - no errors :D
Any ideas what went wrong?
Pc's have same confogurations and same SW settings.
SW 20221 SP3

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:46 am
by SPerman
Try flipping the direction. The arrow indicating cut direction is pointed away from the body.


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Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:31 am
by bnemec
SPerman wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:46 am Try flipping the direction. The arrow indicating cut direction is pointed away from the body.



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... because in these terribly ambiguous situations that is the most helpful direction to cut.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:38 am
by Lapuo
Sketch is on the other side (face which is not visible)so direction is ok.
Anyhow it does not work in any direction no matter what depth i choose.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:00 am
by AlexLachance
remove "link to thickness" and select "through all".

Should fix your issue IMO

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:04 am
by Lapuo
I tried , with all possible options.
I tried to recreate feature.
SW says NO

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:10 am
by AlexLachance
Oh, excuse me, I hadn't read that it works on one PC and doesn't on another.

Have you tried resetting the SolidWorks registry and then reloading SolidWorks settings?

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:14 am
by Lapuo
Yeah i probably should.
Not me , but my IT o[

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:38 am
by AlexLachance
Lapuo wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:14 am Yeah i probably should.
Not me , but my IT o[
Alin, or Javelin Tech, has a very nice summary of how to process, if you ever feel like doing it yourself.

https://www.javelin-tech.com/blog/2019/ ... -registry/

If that doesn't work, I'd look to see if you're running the same driver for your graphic card. Perhaps you have a faulty driver and the other one has the approved one.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:44 am
by SPerman
AlexLachance wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:10 am Oh, excuse me, I hadn't read that it works on one PC and doesn't on another.

Have you tried resetting the SolidWorks registry and then reloading SolidWorks settings?
I missed that as well. My only suggestion would be to reach out to your VAR.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:10 am
by bnemec
AlexLachance wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:10 am Oh, excuse me, I hadn't read that it works on one PC and doesn't on another.

Have you tried resetting the SolidWorks registry and then reloading SolidWorks settings?
I missed as well. It's just habit to assume that SW flipped the cut direction.

On the problem PC, can you try logging in as a different windows user? When the behavior seems to be local to one PC I ask that user to test same thing on another PC and the user from a PC that doesn't replicate the problem to try it on the problem PC. Then I know if it's the user's roaming profile or PC.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:40 am
by RichGergely
Has one computer got verification on rebuild active and the other doesn't?

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:52 am
by Lapuo
RichGergely wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:40 am Has one computer got verification on rebuild active and the other doesn't?
As i said , all settings are the same.
PC is same.
Driver is same.

We will try to reset settings (i dont have any permissions , so that is why IT must), and probably we will contact our VAR

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:21 am
by zxys001
Are you sure the sketch is closed? As a test, try to extrude it.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:55 am
by AlexLachance
zxys001 wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:21 am Are you sure the sketch is closed? As a test, try to extrude it.
I can vouch it's closed. Sketch lines do not have the same thickness for open profiles. They become "as thick" as construction lines.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:24 am
by Lapuo
AlexLachance wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:55 am I can vouch it's closed. Sketch lines do not have the same thickness for open profiles. They become "as thick" as construction lines.
Yes , and i dont believe it would work on another PC if sketch is open

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:19 am
by SPerman
I don't do much sheet metal work, so these are just guesses. Is there an add-in that could be missing from one computer? Or a feature that isn't turned on?

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:39 am
by Ömür Tokman
have you tried normal cut?
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Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:08 am
by Lapuo
Ömür Tokman wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:39 am have you tried normal cut?
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Yes.
Unfortunately it wont work.
Biggest suprise to me is why this part is loaded normally at PC's of my colleague who have exactly same settings as me, and on my PC it shows red feature tree.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:45 pm
by AlexLachance
Lapuo wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:08 am Yes.
Unfortunately it wont work.
Biggest suprise to me is why this part is loaded normally at PC's of my colleague who have exactly same settings as me, and on my PC it shows red feature tree.
Have you tried @bnemec's suggestion of trying on your PC with a different user then yours..?

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:26 am
by Lapuo
I tried , and no success

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:28 am
by bradb
Been following this to see what the outcome is. I'm not an IT guy put this is my $.02.If you have logged into the other users PC as you and it works, has the other user logged into your PC as themself and what is the outcome? If it works on yours with the other user logged in there is something in the settings. If it doesn't work there is something in the registry.

I also assume your IT dept has given you the standard reply of "have you tried rebooting it" to get it to work.

Seriously though, this is my biggest complaint with this, the software knows there is a problem preventing a function but won't to tell me what or where it is so I can attempt to fix it.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:55 am
by Lapuo
bradb wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:28 am Been following this to see what the outcome is. I'm not an IT guy put this is my $.02.If you have logged into the other users PC as you and it works, has the other user logged into your PC as themself and what is the outcome? If it works on yours with the other user logged in there is something in the settings. If it doesn't work there is something in the registry.

I also assume your IT dept has given you the standard reply of "have you tried rebooting it" to get it to work.

Seriously though, this is my biggest complaint with this, the software knows there is a problem preventing a function but won't to tell me what or where it is so I can attempt to fix it.
So , i tried to log in on another PC and it works.
On my PC it does not work (with different users)
You are right about IT :D , and i gave up because i recreated part from scratch.
I am leaving company (and this kind of job) at the end of this week , so , to be honest , it does not matter to me anymore.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:33 am
by zxys001
Lapuo wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 7:55 am So , i tried to log in on another PC and it works.
On my PC it does not work (with different users)
You are right about IT :D , and i gave up because i recreated part from scratch.
I am leaving company (and this kind of job) at the end of this week , so , to be honest , it does not matter to me anymore.
Hi Lapuo,
Just to confirm (again) is/was the "verification on rebuild" option on your and the other computer turned on (see image).

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 11:57 am
by DanPihlaja
zxys001 wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:33 am Hi Lapuo,
Just to confirm (again) is/was the "verification on rebuild" option on your and the other computer turned on (see image).
That is a great question. I forgot about that and remember an issue from old where that effected different people.

Again! I wish that this check box was checked by default!

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:21 am
by Lapuo
Good point,but It is checked on both computers.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:40 am
by Lapuo
So , i found something interesting.
When i supressed one of the features (closed corner) everything worked - all errors were "fixed" and i could recreate new ones.
I tried to edit feature , and i noticed that gap was 0.01 mm. After i changed it to 0.1mm everything worked.
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0.01 is still a gap but when it is so small than corner is overlapping and i guess that was reason why this body was not valid to SW.
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Still does not explain why everything is working at another pc, but i am little bit happy i found something.
Maybe until end of the week we can see what the route of the problem is :D

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:52 am
by DanPihlaja
Lapuo wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:40 am So , i found something interesting.
When i supressed one of the features (closed corner) everything worked - all errors were "fixed" and i could recreate new ones.
I tried to edit feature , and i noticed that gap was 0.01 mm. After i changed it to 0.1mm everything worked.
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0.01 is still a gap but when it is so small than corner is overlapping and i guess that was reason why this body was not valid to SW.
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Still does not explain why everything is working at another pc, but i am little bit happy i found something.
Maybe until end of the week we can see what the route of the problem is :D
Run a check on the part:
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And see what you get for invalid stuff.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:29 am
by zxys001
Lapuo wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:40 am So , i found something interesting.
When i supressed one of the features (closed corner) everything worked - all errors were "fixed" and i could recreate new ones.
I tried to edit feature , and i noticed that gap was 0.01 mm. After i changed it to 0.1mm everything worked.
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0.01 is still a gap but when it is so small than corner is overlapping and i guess that was reason why this body was not valid to SW.
image.png

Still does not explain why everything is working at another pc, but i am little bit happy i found something.
Maybe until end of the week we can see what the route of the problem is :D
Glad you found the something, that overlap is imho the problem which triggers the other .01mm to fault.
As @DanPihlaja shows there are ways also to do detailed checking.
It is odd that the other computer does not do this though.
Short edges and close vertices also have issues... sheetmetal does some strange transitions so also look at the settings for rips?

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:37 am
by bradb
Going back to the works on one but not the other almost makes me think there is a system accuracy / tolerance / limit setting someplace that's causing it. Long ago we used to run into that with files from different CAD systems.

Re: The feature failed to cut the body

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:10 am
by bnemec
bradb wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:37 am Going back to the works on one but not the other almost makes me think there is a system accuracy / tolerance / limit setting someplace that's causing it. Long ago we used to run into that with files from different CAD systems.
Save your SW user settings and then:

https://www.javelin-tech.com/blog/2019/ ... -registry/