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SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:04 pm
by dseibel
Just tossing this out there to help inform others of the bug.
When exporting a file containing curves (that were created in Solidworks using the Project Curves tool/command) as a step or iges file, using an output coordinate system other than the default, Solidworks will use the selected csys for outputting everything EXCEPT the curves...the default csys will be used for the curves. So when someone reads in the step or iges file, the curves will no longer be located correctly in relation to the part.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:17 pm
by AlexLachance
dseibel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:04 pm
Just tossing this out there to help inform others of the bug.
When exporting a file containing curves (that were created in Solidworks) as a step or iges file, using an output coordinate system other than the default, Solidworks will use the selected csys for outputting everything EXCEPT the curves...the default csys will be used for the curves. So when someone reads in the step or iges file, the curves will no longer be located correctly in relation to the part.
Out of curiosity, why would you use a different coordinate system then the default to export...?
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:28 pm
by zxys001
dseibel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:04 pm
Just tossing this out there to help inform others of the bug.
When exporting a file containing curves (that were created in Solidworks) as a step or iges file, using an output coordinate system other than the default, Solidworks will use the selected csys for outputting everything EXCEPT the curves...the default csys will be used for the curves. So when someone reads in the step or iges file, the curves will no longer be located correctly in relation to the part.
Hello Doug, I just tested 2019sp5/2020sp5/2021sp5/2022sp3 and it works fine.
Is there something you can show?
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:46 pm
by dseibel
AlexLachance wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:17 pm
Out of curiosity, why would you use a different coordinate system then the default to export...?
Several reasons. Modifying imported data, and the origin of the imported data is not the origin desired/required by the CNC dept. Need to output files in different orientations for the CNC dept. Basically if, for any reason whatsoever, the origin of the model isn't the origin desired by the CNC dept...and the CNC department consists of button-monkeys that don't know how to deal with such issues using the CNC programming software and the company policy is that Design must supply CNC with files that have the origin in the location desired by the CNC dept.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:53 pm
by dseibel
zxys001 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:28 pm
Hello Doug, I just tested 2019sp5/2020sp5/2021sp5/2022sp3 and it works fine.
Is there something you can show?
The attached zip file contains a Solidworks 2022 file, and the iges files created by exporting it using the default origin as well as the CNC csys. Open all three files...the issue should be quite obvious. Be sure to turn off 3D Interconnect when opening/importing the iges files using Solidworks. If 3D Interconnect is enabled, Solidworks will not read in the curves in a file...another Solidworks bug.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:35 pm
by AlexLachance
dseibel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:46 pm
Several reasons. Modifying imported data, and the origin of the imported data is not the origin desired/required by the CNC dept. Need to output files in different orientations for the CNC dept. Basically if, for any reason whatsoever, the origin of the model isn't the origin desired by the CNC dept...and the CNC department consists of button-monkeys that don't know how to deal with such issues using the CNC programming software and the company policy is that Design must supply CNC with files that have the origin in the location desired by the CNC dept.
Oh, I understand. Thanks for the explanation! We don't have a CNC where I work which is why I've never ran into this
Edit: Why not "move body" to have the file's origin at the desired place..? This way you wouldn't have to jerk around with a new origin to define in your exporting process..?
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:52 pm
by SPerman
Because you still want the part at 0,0,0 for your purposes.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:56 pm
by AlexLachance
SPerman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:52 pm
Because you still want the part at 0,0,0 for your purposes.
It could still be there for your purposes, one config for your purposes, another one for the CNC that moves the body to have the origin at the CNC's desired location.
Or am I missing something here..?
It would give the desired result, with a different approach. Maybe he doesn't want to deal with configs though.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:59 pm
by dseibel
AlexLachance wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:35 pm
Oh, I understand. Thanks for the explanation! We don't have a CNC where I work which is why I've never ran into this
Edit: Why not "move body" to have the file's origin at the desired place..? This way you wouldn't have to jerk around with a new origin to define in your exporting process..?
Regarding using the Move Body command...
Because it does exactly what it says...it moves bodies, not curves. Also, the Move Body command can really jerk you over depending on how it is assembled into an assembly. It can cause a domino effect of failing features & mates. But the big reason is because it will only move bodies. Curves stay exactly where they were. Making it rather useless as a "hack" to deal with this Solidworks bug.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:00 pm
by AlexLachance
dseibel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:59 pm
Regarding using the Move Body command...
Because it does exactly what it says...it moves bodies, not curves. Also, the Move Body command can really jerk you over depending on how it is assembled into an assembly. It can cause a domino effect of failing features & mates.
Understood! Sorry for the disturbance just trying to understand to see if I could come up with an idea lol
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:01 pm
by Frederick_Law
dseibel wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:46 pm
and the CNC department consists of button-monkeys that don't know how to deal with such issues using the CNC programming software
And it's company policy to let them program CNC?
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:08 pm
by zxys001
So, the curves seem to come in correct, no?
And, as Alex suggest (but you said no) rotate the bodies?
Or maybe apply another 180deg coordsys and use that as the export?
Yeah, I don't have/use the CNC module.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:10 pm
by zxys001
zxys001 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:08 pm
So, the curves seem to come in correct, no?
And, as Alex suggest (but you said no) rotate the bodies?
Or maybe apply another 180deg coordsys and use that as the export or pre-rotate (config) the bodies 180 before exporting?
Yeah, I don't have/use the CNC module.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:09 am
by dseibel
zxys001 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:08 pm
So, the curves seem to come in correct, no?
And, as Alex suggest (but you said no) rotate the bodies?
Or maybe apply another 180deg coordsys and use that as the export?
Yeah, I don't have/use the CNC module.
No, the curves do not come in correct. Actually, the more accurate statement is that the curves do not EXPORT correct. Major issue.
Re: SOLIDWORKS BUG! (Exporting files with curves)
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:48 am
by RichGergely
Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:01 pm
And it's company policy to let them program CNC?
Got to agree there, how can you trust a cnc programmer if they can't even move a part to the orientation they want to machine to. It's really basic and quite frankly I have never met someone who programs CNC's who can't do this.