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Alin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:16 am Check to see what the new subscription includes. Most likely they added several new tools and services to justify the price increase.
I am not saying that this will make you change your mind, but I hope they did not increase the price without offering extra benefits.

Arthur NY wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:28 pm There will never be enough "new features" to ever justify a 23% increase. Even when Solidworks added Multibodies in a Part file, and that was a HUGE deal, it would not have been worth the price increase.

That they are forcing all new purchase licenses that they have get 3 years maint. That's just not in the vein of where Solidworks started, for engineers by engineers. That's just corporate tactics that are VERY much like how PTC was back in the day.

Alin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:16 am Check to see what the new subscription includes. Most likely they added several new tools and services to justify the price increase.
I am not saying that this will make you change your mind, but I hope they did not increase the price without offering extra benefits.

bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:58 pm Alin, Looks like it includes access to the 3DX platform, but very limited to no roles included. Those are extra. The only people excited about the announcement of the addition (forced) to the desktop subscription at Experience World last year were the DSS and SW execs.

Alin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:15 pm I like the new share with markup functionality:



I hope more announcements will be made in Dallas. For example, I would like to see xShape made available to all Surfacing users as part of their regular subscription, at no extra cost. Maybe I am dreaming, but that would be sweet!

Alin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:15 pm I like the new share with markup functionality:



I hope more announcements will be made in Dallas. For example, I would like to see xShape made available to all Surfacing users as part of their regular subscription, at no extra cost. Maybe I am dreaming, but that would be sweet!

Alin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 2:15 pm
I hope more announcements will be made in Dallas. For example, I would like to see xShape made available to all Surfacing users as part of their regular subscription, at no extra cost. Maybe I am dreaming, but that would be sweet!

Arthur NY wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:29 pm It is 100% insane that a user would have to use a whole new platform to get SubD functionality when ALL other platforms have it built into it's core.

Alin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:43 pm I would also love to have SubD brought back inside SW! Like the nPower add-in, only better.

Arthur NY wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:30 pm xSurface doesn't even come close to nPower in terms of capability. I've spoken with the PM about the need to step outside of the CAD lane and start looking around the SubD modeling world because there's a lot to be desired. nPower is about the best we get natively.

Alin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:04 pm That is the add-in SW should buy and integrate.

Alin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:04 pm That is the add-in SW should buy and integrate.

Alin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:43 pm I would also love to have SubD brought back inside SW! Like the nPower add-in, only better.

doobes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:40 am LOL!

So I got this from my VAR this morning:

"My name is XXXXX with XXXXX and SOLIDWORKS. We currently provide your SOLIDWORKS support. I work alongside your territory sales rep – XXXXXX

We are increasing the value of your subscription by pairing our customer success plans with SOLIDPROFESSOR. There will also be a price change.

This helps us give you:

Access to on-demand training and continual learning
Training credit ($500)
Consulting session (2 hours)
3D printing voucher (20% off up to 500$)
Services discount (20% off)

I would love to have a quick 10 min. teams call to show you all what we are adding and how it benefits you.

Let me know when the best time would be to have a quick demo of SOLIDPROFESSOR and discuss why this is going to add value and be an overall positive change.

I look forward to hearing back from you."

This was my response:

"Good morning XXXXX,

This is not aimed at you personally, but LOL! Good luck with that.

A 25% increase for subscription/support that was a major fail last year is rich. XXXXXX's attempting to add value to this increase is appreciated in light of the cost increase is laudable, but I've been a SolidWorks user since '96 and my need for training, consulting, etc is non-existent. I'm a SWCP by the way.

Typically I have no need for support, but last year, I submitted 4 support requests. The only one that was successful was a login issue with the new and improved(?) SolidWorks website. And even that was after your support staff tried to slope shoulder the problem back onto me telling me to call corporate. Needless to say that suggestion was met with a sound "No, that's what I'm paying you for". The other three died on the vine. Eventually one of the issues was resolved by my own research, the other two are unresolved....

In any event, as of May last year, I'm officially retired. In years past, my employer ponied up for the subscription services in support of our customer who was heavily SolidWorks centric.

Now support costs would be potentially coming out of a fixed income. The thought of paying the original $1295 out of that fixed income was painful, but the thought of paying the now $1699.75 tariff is excruciating, particularly in light of the less than stellar support received last year. Additionally, I have no use for the cloud based capability that SolidWorks/Dassault is currently pushing. Not now, not ever.

I think it's safe to say that, unless there is a SUBSTANTIAL discount offered on support, I will not be taking advantage of the "increased value" of SOLIDWORKS support."

So, I'll be "free-lancing" here at the end of February.

I can only hope there is a decent SP of Swx 2024 released by then. If not I'll be staying with v2023 SP5!

Yippie ki yay ......

mp3-250 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:41 pm 3DX is another component I will uncheck from our admin image. the last thing we want is our users sharing company data on a unauthorized cloud with does not conforn to our sec policy

doobes wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:50 am So,

I got an e-mail saying that they had been approved to offer me "legacy" pricing of $1,295.

Whoop.... whoop....

As a co-worker of mine was wont to say "I'm poopin' in high cotton"...

About all I can say is this is better than nothing, but still not gonna happen.

I was talking about it with the LOML and she asked, "Well how much is it". I told her $1295.

She said, that's fine go ahead. At which point I said "One Thousand Two Hundred and ninety-five."

To which she replied "holy crap!"

bnemec wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:15 am Also, from some of the eaaforums it sounds like the Solid Edge is for several years, even some comments about can keep that version forever? Don't quote me on that, I didn't read all the details myself. I've been an EAA member for a while but haven't made time to download and install Solid Edge at home. However, if I ever have time for that kind of tinkering at home I'm pretty sure I would make use of it.

jcapriotti wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:25 am Is that a different version from the Community Edition. I have SE Community Edition 2022 installed. Show about another year before it expires.

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bnemec wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:47 am Research in anything software has become like quotes; only valid for 30 days. Digressing, but too many blogs do not contain publish date or location in the header like the old "proper" periodicals did, just have the name.

bnemec wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:15 am As an FYI, When Solidworks made a hash of the deal they made with EAA members that had been making use of the benefit pointed out their displeasure with what Solidworks did. The EAA does try to listen to their members, combined with Siemen's willingness to swoop in and "save the day" for some good PR, we now have Solid Edge for EAA members. Unlike Solidworks hoop jumping to get to download and keeping the license at the end of a scavenger hunt, Solid Edge is keeping it simple.

https://www.eaa.org/eaa/eaa-membership/ ... solid-edge

Also, from some of the eaaforums it sounds like the Solid Edge is for several years, even some comments about can keep that version forever? Don't quote me on that, I didn't read all the details myself. I've been an EAA member for a while but haven't made time to download and install Solid Edge at home. However, if I ever have time for that kind of tinkering at home I'm pretty sure I would make use of it.

https://eaaforums.org/showthread.php?10 ... idEdge-CAD

I don't mean to use this cadforum thread to promote EAA, just sharing that it may be an affordable option. As Alex mentions On Shape also appears to have low cost/freeish options as well. I'm just adding this to the list.