This last one is pretty funny actually. Notice the clever word plays....
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:57 pm
by matt
One that I like is that Solid Edge can loft from a circle to a line (like a chisel) and SW can't. Well, SW can do it, but it requires lofting from a half circle to a line, and then mirroring it.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:37 am
by mike miller
Oh, you know that guy with a subtle but sharp sense of humor? The guy you see around here a lot?
It's been a while but I remember something like being able to resize a drawing view real time instead of having to create a sketch and crop the view. I don't have SE to test it, but it seemed to work MUCH better. And yeah, SE's mouse gestures put SW to shame.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:55 am
by mike miller
mattpeneguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:49 am
It's been a while but I remember something like being able to resize a drawing view real time instead of having to create a sketch and crop the view. I don't have SE to test it, but it seemed to work MUCH better. And yeah, SE's mouse gestures put SW to shame.
The SE Subtract feature is also extremely useful especially on the assemble level because you can subtract geometry from a component based on another components geometry.
mike miller wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:55 am
YUP! Pretty sweet.
SE Resize View.wmv
That's how I remembered it, nice and easy!
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:32 pm
by matt
Solid Edge has a number of ways to replace parts in the assembly. I find these options more straight forward than in the other program.
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Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:23 pm
by bnemec
matt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:32 pm
Solid Edge has a number of ways to replace parts in the assembly. I find these options more straight forward than in the other program.
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We used (and miss) Revision/Design Manager for this type of thing. I don't know how Solidworks users that don't have PDM function without a similar tool. Unless there is one that I didn't find. There isn't much need for something like Design Manager when PDM is used, but it would be nice if just to view data from the file on disc, vs an amalgamation of database and file. I guess it would really just be for CAD Admin troubleshooting messed up files, so maybe not.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:17 am
by Glenn Schroeder
Jaylin Hochstetler wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:24 am
The SE Subtract feature is also extremely useful especially on the assemble level because you can subtract geometry from a component based on another components geometry.
SE Subtract (Jaylin).wmv
That is nice. You can do it in Solidworks too, but you have to edit the Part inside the Assembly (which isn't difficult).
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:26 am
by Imics13
Guys,
There are some:
1. Handling mesh model:
2. Assembly relationship assistant:
...
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:21 am
by SPerman
Does SE have a real coordinate system? In NX that was 3 planes, 3 axis and an origin, all in one easily translatable/rotatable feature.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:57 am
by matt
SPerman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:21 am
Does SE have a real coordinate system? In NX that was 3 planes, 3 axis and an origin, all in one easily translatable/rotatable feature.
SE's origin and base planes work like SW's. You can add additional coordinate systems, but 0,0,0 is always 0,0,0.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:56 pm
by jcapriotti
matt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:57 am
SE's origin and base planes work like SW's. You can add additional coordinate systems, but 0,0,0 is always 0,0,0.
Let's revisit this in October.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:14 pm
by Imics13
Guys,
I always use "MICE" shortcuts to find an element's (line, arc) midpoint, intersection point, centerpoint, endpoint at drawing, dimensioning and relating.
BR,
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:05 am
by bnemec
I've brought this up before in that I cannot believe Solidworks cannot do this basic sheet metal functionality. Dimple, Drawn Cutout and Bead, especially the first and last are sorely missed in Solidworks.
I don't know when they added this, the blog is from 2013 but I'm pretty sure the features are older than that. Solidworks has no apparent interest in adding this functionality.
I always use "MICE" shortcuts to find an element's (line, arc) midpoint, intersection point, centerpoint, endpoint at drawing, dimensioning and relating.
BR,
Can you expand on this please?
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 am
by matt
bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:06 am
Can you expand on this please?
It just means that you can type M, I, C or E on the keyboard while sketching to get the cursor to snap to a midpoint, intersection point, center point or end point. It's one of the first basic things you learn about SE sketching. You can also just move the cursor so it automatically picks up these snap points, but if the screen is busy, the keyboard give you an option.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 am
by Imics13
matt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 am
It just means that you can type M, I, C or E on the keyboard while sketching to get the cursor to snap to a midpoint, intersection point, center point or end point. It's one of the first basic things you learn about SE sketching. You can also just move the cursor so it automatically picks up these snap points, but if the screen is busy, the keyboard give you an option.
Thx Matt, perfect!
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:56 am
by matt
Imics13 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 am
Thx Matt, perfect!
I've learned a couple things from you! Glad to see you here!
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:57 am
by bnemec
matt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:30 am
It just means that you can type M, I, C or E on the keyboard while sketching to get the cursor to snap to a midpoint, intersection point, center point or end point. It's one of the first basic things you learn about SE sketching. You can also just move the cursor so it automatically picks up these snap points, but if the screen is busy, the keyboard give you an option.
Huh! never knew that. I used the snap-to options. I guess they branded it "IntelliSketch" Although, with the left hand on 3D Space Mouse I don't use much keyboard stuff, guess I need the third hand afterall.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:26 am
by mike miller
I just learned about Styles. Pretty cool.
It doesn't seem very earth shattering until you realize that Styles can be copied between documents.
That is just...........awesome!
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:11 am
by bnemec
Just noticed this a little while ago. Apparently Solidworks users do not crop drawing views much. In SE, just drag the drawing view boarder. In SW, the only way we figgured out is to draw a sketch then insert drawing view->crop. But editing the sketch is ridiculous, there's no sketch relations placed so dragging the box can tear it apart. Just very clunky if you ask me.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:50 am
by jcapriotti
mike miller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:26 am
I just learned about Styles. Pretty cool.
2021-07-12 10_22_23.jpg
It doesn't seem very earth shattering until you realize that Styles can be copied between documents.
2021-07-12 10_24_09.jpg
That is just...........awesome!
Isn't that was the Drafting Standard load option is for? It's not a drawing to drawing copy but in our environment I would want to apply settings from a central master style rather than another drawing whose style maybe out of date.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:00 pm
by mike miller
jcapriotti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:50 am
Isn't that was the Drafting Standard load option is for? It's not a drawing to drawing copy but in our environment I would want to apply settings from a central master style rather than another drawing whose style maybe out of date.
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SE stores it with the Draft (drawing) template. BTW, it also stores the sheet format with the template instead of forcing you to save it out each time and not bothering to even remind you.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:35 pm
by jcapriotti
mike miller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:00 pm
SE stores it with the Draft (drawing) template. BTW, it also stores the sheet format with the template instead of forcing you to save it out each time and not bothering to even remind you.
Not following fully. SolidWorks saves the drafting standards to an external file for loading and it's stored inside your templates as well. You load it as needed although it would be nice for the system to notice that it's changed and prompt to update the currently open drawing.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:40 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:11 am
Just noticed this a little while ago. Apparently Solidworks users do not crop drawing views much. In SE, just drag the drawing view boarder. In SW, the only way we figgured out is to draw a sketch then insert drawing view->crop. But editing the sketch is ridiculous, there's no sketch relations placed so dragging the box can tear it apart. Just very clunky if you ask me.
I frequently crop views in SW, and it works pretty smooth. I insert the drawing view, then sketch the lines to define the border, then Crop the view. I typically use the corner rectangle sketch tool. That way as soon as I've sketched the rectangle (before clicking anywhere else) I can go straight to the Crop view command, while the sketch is still selected, so I don't have to go back and select all four lines.
One thing that commonly causes problems with Crop View for new users is placing the sketch lines that don't belong to the drawing view. If that happens then Crop will be grayed out when you try to select it. Before starting the sketch either double-click on the drawing view to keep it active, or make sure you start the sketch inside the drawing view border.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:42 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
mike miller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:00 pm
SE stores it with the Draft (drawing) template. BTW, it also stores the sheet format with the template instead of forcing you to save it out each time and not bothering to even remind you.
I don't understand. Solidworks saves the sheet format inside the drawing template.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:52 pm
by mike miller
Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:42 pm
I don't understand. Solidworks saves the sheet format inside the drawing template.
Right, but not for already created drawings. You have to remember to save it out before you just reload the sheet format...
It's not a huge deal, but it's just nice to control everything from a single file type.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:06 pm
by jcapriotti
mike miller wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:52 pm
Right, but not for already created drawings. You have to remember to save it out before you just reload the sheet format...
It's not a huge deal, but it's just nice to control everything from a single file type.
Sheet format template is different than a file template. Are you saying they shouldn't be?
We don't store the sheet format at all in our drawing templates. When we created a new drawing, SolidWorks knows there isn't a sheet format and prompts for it. So no need to maintain drawing templates for different sizes.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:12 pm
by jcapriotti
bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:11 am
Just noticed this a little while ago. Apparently Solidworks users do not crop drawing views much. In SE, just drag the drawing view boarder. In SW, the only way we figgured out is to draw a sketch then insert drawing view->crop. But editing the sketch is ridiculous, there's no sketch relations placed so dragging the box can tear it apart. Just very clunky if you ask me.
We use crop views all over our drawings. You just sketch what ever shape you want then hit the crop button. You can add dimensions and sketch relations to hold it in place if you want.
The drag view border in SE is nice but I'm still trying to figure out how to make a non-rectangular crop. I'm in the edit view border but I'm missing some step.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:23 pm
by bnemec
jcapriotti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:12 pm
We use crop views all over our drawings. You just sketch what ever shape you want then hit the crop button. You can add dimensions and sketch relations to hold it in place if you want.
The drag view border in SE is nice but I'm still trying to figure out how to make a non-rectangular crop. I'm in the edit view border but I'm missing some step.
I guess we never had the need for a non-rectangular crop. I guess it you need that then the extra hassle of drawing a crop sketch is worth while. Also, I get that adding the sketch to crop a view isn't a big deal, editing it is like a hand of thumbs IMO
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:54 am
by mike miller
jcapriotti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:12 pm
We use crop views all over our drawings. You just sketch what ever shape you want then hit the crop button. You can add dimensions and sketch relations to hold it in place if you want.
The drag view border in SE is nice but I'm still trying to figure out how to make a non-rectangular crop. I'm in the edit view border but I'm missing some step.
The icon you're looking for looks like a pencil on a square of paper. Click on it and you can then delete line elements and replace them with splines (or whatever). After you return, it is now no longer a "quick edit" crop; so you have to edit the boundary with the same method.
I will also say that I have only ever used a non-rectangular crop view about twice.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:06 am
by DanPihlaja
jcapriotti wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:06 pm
...
We don't store the sheet format at all in our drawing templates. When we created a new drawing, SolidWorks knows there isn't a sheet format and prompts for it. So no need to maintain drawing templates for different sizes.
How do you make that happen?
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:12 am
by bnemec
mike miller wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:54 am
The icon you're looking for looks like a pencil on a square of paper. Click on it and you can then delete line elements and replace them with splines (or whatever). After you return, it is now no longer a "quick edit" crop; so you have to edit the boundary with the same method.
I will also say that I have only ever used a non-rectangular crop view about twice.
That looks like a sentence I would write. So you're saying you use rectangular crop most of the time, some other shape maybe twice? I'm not just trying to pick, I'm interested into why use other shape for cropping a view. Most the time we prefer a detail view, but there are times when a cropped view just works better.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:33 am
by Glenn Schroeder
dpihlaja wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:06 am
How do you make that happen?
Dan,
To have SW ask for a sheet format when starting a new drawing:
1. Open a new drawing with an existing template.
2. Expand the tree to show "Sheet Format".
3. Right-click on it and select "Delete" from the drop-down. The sheet will be blank.
4. Save as . . . drawing template (either overriding the existing file or give it a different name to save it as a new template).
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:29 pm
by jcapriotti
bnemec wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:12 am
That looks like a sentence I would write. So you're saying you use rectangular crop most of the time, some other shape maybe twice? I'm not just trying to pick, I'm interested into why use other shape for cropping a view. Most the time we prefer a detail view, but there are times when a cropped view just works better.
Probably just more of a preference, makes it more obvious that its a cropped view and looks better IMO but you could do this with a rectangular crop as well.
This is a spline based crop that was done to save vertical space which is why a circle wasn't used. Sometimes we don't have parent views for these kind of details as it's redundant. Often because our products are configurable and we may show several details like this for multiple configurations.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:09 am
by Imics13
Guys,
We like 3DFind.it integration where user is able to download and put model in assy. Easy to use...
To have SW ask for a sheet format when starting a new drawing:
1. Open a new drawing with an existing template.
2. Expand the tree to show "Sheet Format".
3. Right-click on it and select "Delete" from the drop-down. The sheet will be blank.
4. Save as . . . drawing template (either overriding the existing file or give it a different name to save it as a new template).
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OK, I get it. However, it some with problems (in SW 2018 anyway): The revision table will not jump to the new anchor point when I pick a different size. The only way that I can get it to jump to the updated anchor point is to select the revision table, and check and then uncheck the "Attach to anchor point" check box. Either that, or set a new anchor point.....twice. Once to change the position, a 2nd time to jump it back to the correct position.
I am guessing that those people who are NOT running into this problem either, it is fixed in a newer version of Solidworks, or they don't use the revision table.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:17 pm
by jcapriotti
dpihlaja wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:05 am
OK, I get it. However, it some with problems (in SW 2018 anyway): The revision table will not jump to the new anchor point when I pick a different size. The only way that I can get it to jump to the updated anchor point is to select the revision table, and check and then uncheck the "Attach to anchor point" check box. Either that, or set a new anchor point.....twice. Once to change the position, a 2nd time to jump it back to the correct position.
I am guessing that those people who are NOT running into this problem either, it is fixed in a newer version of Solidworks, or they don't use the revision table.
We don't use revision tables so I couldn't say, although we do use BOM anchor points and they work fine. I'm guessing you defined your anchor points in each sheet size prior to saving the sheet format?
I tried it in 2021 and it worked as expected. When I change from A to B size sheet the revision table moves and stays anchored to the upper right corner.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:17 pm
by Imics13
Hi Guys,
I think Steering Wheel is a very useful thing in #SolidEdge. You can Move, Rotate and/or Copy parts in assy. When you copy a part, you can use its old relationships to add to new positions.
Or Solid Edge will add new relationships to parts at moving...
Here is a short video:
BR,
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:31 pm
by mike miller
So this morning I was working on another migrated project that had originated in SWX and was now in SE. I had a "dumb solid" I was working with, essentially, as there were no dimensions, relationships, or anything. It was not an easy part either, as it was basically a scalloped cutting edge (see screenshot).
Okay, I thought, I'll built some real intelligence into this model! I started out cheerfully by deleting all the cutouts but one and creating a linear pattern in Synch with cuts at the ends in Ordered. To make a long story short, by the time I was done and had found something worked well, I was EXACTLY in the same place I started. The most robust model to handle change in this case was full Synch, without any pattern or Ordered features whatsoever (e.g., a dumb solid but with smart software)!
This was a real eye-opener for me, because it demonstrated that a dumb solid with only essential 3D face dimensions (PMI) is actually the best approach in many cases.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:57 pm
by DaveG
mike miller wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:31 pm
So this morning I was working on another migrated project that had originated in SWX and was now in SE. I had a "dumb solid" I was working with, essentially, as there were no dimensions, relationships, or anything. It was not an easy part either, as it was basically a scalloped cutting edge (see screenshot).
Okay, I thought, I'll built some real intelligence into this model! I started out cheerfully by deleting all the cutouts but one and creating a linear pattern in Synch with cuts at the ends in Ordered. To make a long story short, by the time I was done and had found something worked well, I was EXACTLY in the same place I started. The most robust model to handle change in this case was full Synch, without any pattern or Ordered features whatsoever (e.g., a dumb solid but with smart software)!
This was a real eye-opener for me, because it demonstrated that a dumb solid with only essential 3D face dimensions (PMI) is actually the best approach in many cases.
2021-07-21 12_25_48.jpg
Yes, I often convert to sync if I regret what path I've taken in the ordered environment or the model isn't stable, then all sins are forgiven! If there is something preventing it being converted to sync, I'll export to parasolid & import back in, giving it a new part number.
Also, you can use pattern recognition in sync on imported models
Somebody must have jumped the gun posting this, as the video is now gone. I had seen a part 2 video after I watched the first one that I saved to watch later, and when I came back the next day the link was broken. Still, looks like some great new features!
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:45 am
by mike miller
Just got done fixing a STEP file from a vendor. It came in as 220+ surface bodies because there were open faces and offsets everywhere.
Synchronous surfacing has acute drawbacks (you can't really edit a loft, for example) but it has some really awesome capabilities too, such as moving and copying surfaces and knitting without leaving "tracks".. Also, remember that you can use Synch to do certain things to a model and then use Ordered for the rest. It's not a Synch/Ordered dichotomy where you have to use one to the exclusion of the other.
Here is a video showing the different steering wheel commands (Extend/Trim, Lift, and Tip). Understanding how these work is very valuable when working in Sync.
I really miss this simple little tool, from its element selection behavior to how it presents the data. I've found similar things in SW but just not used to them yet.
Re: Solid Edge nifty features
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:41 pm
by Jaylin Hochstetler
bnemec wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:33 am
I really miss this simple little tool, from its element selection behavior to how it presents the data. I've found similar things in SW but just not used to them yet.
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Nice. Never knew that existed. Learn something new every day!
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I used the snap-to options. I guess they branded it "IntelliSketch" Although, with the left hand on 3D Space Mouse I don't use much keyboard stuff, guess I need the third hand afterall.
